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  • slickzeus
    Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 405

    #16
    Re: So is Brinkman done?

    well Dr. Jones i sure hope Blue Castle can save the mlb franchise, because let me tell you, the xbox owners need a good baseball game. I really miss the days of mvp....i really want mlb 2k series to take over for mvp but so far is hasnt even come close. So instead of pumping out an unfinished product every year, allowing room for improment and an easy way out, please give us a quality game that is worthy of being called a "next-gen" baseball title. Please!

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    • HK-47
      Pro
      • Aug 2006
      • 693

      #17
      Re: So is Brinkman done?

      2K doesn't care about MLB fans. We have asked for the gameplay to be fixed since 2k5, and all they give us every year are stupid gimmicks like slam zone,trading cards,meat balls,rocket arms etc...

      Stop adding pointless **** to the game!


      Four main things for 2k9:

      #1. Make the gameplay realistic on atleast the Legend setting.We shouldn't have to tweak the **** out of the game just to get it to play a realistic game of baseball.The Rookie & Pro settings should be for the little 10 year olds who just want to hit HR's and see the A.I throw nothing but strikes. The Legend setting should be as realistic as possible.

      #2. Keep 2k8's analog controlls.

      #3. Improve the A.I(why don't they steal in 2k8?)

      #4. Improve the graphics(see 2k7)
      Last edited by HK-47; 06-07-2008, 10:28 PM.

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      • Spectre
        Th* ******
        • Mar 2003
        • 5853

        #18
        Re: So is Brinkman done?

        Originally posted by DrJones
        Who are "you guys"? Blue Castle isn't Kush. We're doing just fine, thanks.
        That was the perfect retort to an irrational post :wink:

        I'm really amped for XXXX, I was hoping that Blue Castle was working on XXXXX but I think XXXX will be just fine

        The videos on the Blue Castle site are hilarious- sounds like a fun place to work!

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        • Trevytrev11
          MVP
          • Nov 2006
          • 3259

          #19
          Re: So is Brinkman done?

          Originally posted by DrJones
          Wrong on all counts.
          Maybe, but when the guy comes out and flat out says he doesn't like taking pitches and wants to finish a game in 15 minutes, it doesn't scream baseball fanatic to me. Taking pitches, working counts and getting into a bullpen are huge reasons why a team like the Red Sox are so good and to me are the details that a "hardcore" baseball person would demand and appreciate.

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          • jfsolo
            Live Action, please?
            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #20
            Re: So is Brinkman done?

            Originally posted by Trevytrev11
            Maybe, but when the guy comes out and flat out says he doesn't like taking pitches and wants to finish a game in 15 minutes, it doesn't scream baseball fanatic to me. Taking pitches, working counts and getting into a bullpen are huge reasons why a team like the Red Sox are so good and to me are the details that a "hardcore" baseball person would demand and appreciate.
            A lot of developers who are in their 30's and 40's now, have adopted a design philosophy that mirrors their own decrease in time and energy for playing games. Get in and get out. I think the customer base is divided pretty evenly on that front. Despite being in that age range myself, I still prefer the slow burn to the quick hitter, and always hope that the project leads on games share my point of view.
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            • baa7
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 11691

              #21
              Re: So is Brinkman done?

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              A lot of developers who are in their 30's and 40's now, have adopted a design philosophy that mirrors their own decrease in time and energy for playing games. Get in and get out.
              That doesn't explain The Show...

              A baseball game developer who thinks a "good game of baseball" should include 90% strikes and should be over in 25 minutes, doesn't know a thing about baseball, period, no excuses.

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              • Tomba
                TOMBA IS ONLINE
                • Sep 2006
                • 8908

                #22
                Re: So is Brinkman done?

                Originally posted by DrJones
                Ben Brinkman is working at Activision, not 2K. The remnants of Kush moved from LA to SF. For family reasons, Ben decided not to follow. He is not working on the Little League Baseball title which was mentioned in this thread.

                Who are "you guys"? Blue Castle isn't Kush. We're doing just fine, thanks.
                I just wanna go on the record and say that MLB 2k8 absolutely stunk whereas MLb 2k7 show ALOT of promise the way MLB 08 shows promise this year. Who knows maybe next year it's SCEA who falters in the way that 2k did with MLB 2k8. BUT many developers and producers came on here "promoting the game and absolutely mislead MANY of us here into buying the game. For that i take alot of the words spewed out by "you guys' with grain of salt(and i say this with all due respect to the money i put down for product of this sort)
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                • Trevytrev11
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3259

                  #23
                  Re: So is Brinkman done?

                  Originally posted by jfsolo
                  A lot of developers who are in their 30's and 40's now, have adopted a design philosophy that mirrors their own decrease in time and energy for playing games. Get in and get out. I think the customer base is divided pretty evenly on that front. Despite being in that age range myself, I still prefer the slow burn to the quick hitter, and always hope that the project leads on games share my point of view.
                  Yeah, you would hope the culture of the sport would reign supreme over personal preference for all sports titles and then have options for those that want to tone down that level of realism.

                  It seems like it would be easier this way than to make it simple and allow users to make it harder because it's the harder stuff that needs those fine attention to details.

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                  • Trevytrev11
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3259

                    #24
                    Re: So is Brinkman done?

                    Originally posted by baa7
                    That doesn't explain The Show...

                    A baseball game developer who thinks a "good game of baseball" should include 90% strikes and should be over in 25 minutes, doesn't know a thing about baseball, period, no excuses.
                    I think the passion that each team has for the sport shows in the final product and if that's not true, then I guess it's just overall talent, but I agree with you that that is the person I do not want leading the way for the only MLB licensed game available for my console. If those orders were coming from above then that is another story, but in this case, these were words spoken by the developer about his own personal preferences.

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                    • baa7
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 11691

                      #25
                      Re: So is Brinkman done?

                      Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                      in this case, these were words spoken by the developer about his own personal preferences.
                      That was my impression as well. Same as Brinkman's early comments (soon after he was hired) about the 2K series not being very good in the past, which I highly doubt the suits told him to comment on.

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                      • DrJones
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 9109

                        #26
                        Re: So is Brinkman done?

                        Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                        I think the passion that each team has for the sport shows in the final product and if that's not true, then I guess it's just overall talent
                        I've been on 10 baseball (and 2 hockey) titles, some good, some bad, and in my experience, talent trumps passion (but you need both to make a great game).
                        Originally posted by Thrash13
                        Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                        Originally posted by slickdtc
                        DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                        Originally posted by Kipnis22
                        yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                        • DrJones
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 9109

                          #27
                          Re: So is Brinkman done?

                          Originally posted by Tomba321
                          I just wanna go on the record and say that MLB 2k8 absolutely stunk whereas MLb 2k7 show ALOT of promise the way MLB 08 shows promise this year. Who knows maybe next year it's SCEA who falters in the way that 2k did with MLB 2k8. BUT many developers and producers came on here "promoting the game and absolutely mislead MANY of us here into buying the game. For that i take alot of the words spewed out by "you guys' with grain of salt(and i say this with all due respect to the money i put down for product of this sort)
                          In my opinion, you should take developers' words with a grain of salt when they're promoting a game. It's common sense. Buyer beware.
                          Originally posted by Thrash13
                          Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                          Originally posted by slickdtc
                          DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                          Originally posted by Kipnis22
                          yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                          • Bahnzo
                            Can't spell antetokounmpo
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2809

                            #28
                            Re: So is Brinkman done?

                            Originally posted by DrJones
                            In my opinion, you should take developers' words with a grain of salt when they're promoting a game. It's common sense. Buyer beware.
                            True, but when they flat out lie (60 FPS) then it's a different thing. You're expected to hype your product, but either lying or not even knowing enough about your title to say something like Brinkman did is a joke.

                            I'm surprised he's still in the business after the total mess that MLB2K8 is/was.
                            Steam: Bahnzo

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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9109

                              #29
                              Re: So is Brinkman done?

                              Originally posted by Bahnzo
                              True, but when they flat out lie (60 FPS) then it's a different thing. You're expected to hype your product, but either lying or not even knowing enough about your title to say something like Brinkman did is a joke.

                              I'm surprised he's still in the business after the total mess that MLB2K8 is/was.
                              A lot would surprise you. If Ben hadn't been on 2K8, most people on these forums would be VERY unhappy right now. But whatever, believe what you want. No point in me staying in a thread like this. Peace.
                              Originally posted by Thrash13
                              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                              Originally posted by slickdtc
                              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                              Originally posted by Kipnis22
                              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                              • duke776
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 3044

                                #30
                                Re: So is Brinkman done?

                                Originally posted by DrJones
                                A lot would surprise you. If Ben hadn't been on 2K8, most people on these forums would be VERY unhappy right now. But whatever, believe what you want. No point in me staying in a thread like this. Peace.
                                I completely agree, people are complaining about 2k7 and 2k8, just think if Brinkman never would've came to 2k, you guys would be playing a game just like 2k5 and 2k6...horrible games, games that don't even come close to any realism.

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