Trade Value Scale

[1andonly]

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Felix-Hernandez-to-New-York-Yankees-makes-sense-for-Seattle-Mariners-031311

Your an idiot. You obviously don't follow baseball. Trading Felix would be better for Seattle than keeping him. I don't know why you think Felix won't be traded.

You say it's all media and it would never happen, please read this. It almost happened. So to say it would never happen is idiotic.

There have even been offers from Seattle to deal Felix but they wanted too much

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/marinersblog/2009591133_mariners_turned_down_three-way.html

you sir, are an idiot. Please go watch baseball, better yet a Mariners game before you act like you know what your talking about. Thanks

[1andonly]

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Im smokin chronic but i still think i know my team better than u. and no he didnt almost get traded to boston last yr and he sure is hell isnt going to New York....its all media on tha east coast when someone on the westside or especially in seattle is really good the yankees and sox get jealous and try to offer the farm for the player, more NY than anybody else and they talk about it constantly....its not gonna happen, never will. ur media over there can spread rumors all they want but I think Jack Z said it best saying. "Were not looking to move Felix Hernandez" its okay to be not informed on a player just make sure u got **** right before u spend a ton of time writing and posting a google docs chart. ha

Also I would like to point out what I have said twice and you still fail to understand. Maybe you are in 3rd grade (that would explain everything) or you simply have a hard time reading.

"Second read what I said before you make a fool of yourself. I said this list is mainly for what the player would be if they were on the trade market. I only included a very small list of untouchables. The point of the list wasn't to show that 90% of the players that people were interested in are untouchables."

Again, read before you make yourself look stupid.

[Wshadow206]

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First of all, Ken Rosenthal doesnt work for any mlb team and that was just his opinion once again media. thanks for showing that alot of it is media.....and then that other link....damn....u must be stupid that was in 2009 were in the yr 2011 and felix is signed long term. boston talked to them in 2009 not 2010.....if ur chart is the most up to date thing wouldnt u know that felix isnt on the trade market....in 2011 articles jack has been quoted that were not trading felix. so go find some more old articles to prove ur point, how bout 2003, k sounds good. Felix is a Cy Young Winner, he's young, He's the Face of the Franchise and if we traded him the team would lose fans guaranteed. Im done arguing with ur B!TcH @ss ha

[1andonly]

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First of all, Ken Rosenthal doesnt work for any mlb team and that was just his opinion once again media. thanks for showing that alot of it is media.....and then that other link....damn....u must be stupid that was in 2009 were in the yr 2011 and felix is signed long term. boston talked to them in 2009 not 2010.....if ur chart is the most up to date thing wouldnt u know that felix isnt on the trade market....in 2011 articles jack has been quoted that were not trading felix. so go find some more old articles to prove ur point, how bout 2003, k sounds good. Felix is a Cy Young Winner, he's young, He's the Face of the Franchise and if we traded him the team would lose fans guaranteed. Im done arguing with ur B!TcH @ss ha

lol
1. When did I say Ken Rosenthal works for an MLB team?
2. He never said the trade was happening, he was saying why it made sense.
3. Lol you said he would never be traded, and that same deal was available this past off season. Seattle would have got A-Gon instead of Boston.
4. So since he won a Cy Young he can't be traded? I guess you should go tell that to Zack Greinke, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Jake Peavy, Roger Clemens, Pedro Martinez, CC Sabathia, Johan Sanatana, Barry Zito, and even RANDY JOHNSON who was on the mariners itself. The Mariners had Cliff Lee last year who they traded away for prospects. So there goes everything you've said. Again please learn what your talking about before you make yourself look even dumber (if thats possible?).

Adrian Gonzalez is the face of the Padres franchise and they traded him away along with the pitchers I have named before.

Again i'll say this, I think this is the 3rd or 4th time I've said this, but my point stands that you lack the ability to read, or your in middle school. Now it must be your bed time, read this then go to bed please.

"Second read what I said before you make a fool of yourself. I said this list is mainly for what the player would be if they were on the trade market. I only included a very small list of untouchables. The point of the list wasn't to show that 90% of the players that people were interested in are untouchables."

[Sabo's corked Bat]

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Felix could definitely go if he hits FA. Anyone would pay for him, but unfortunately only some teams can. Seattle will make blunders. They gave up Cliff Lee for Smoak. Smoak's a beast in my Chise, but hes yet to prove himself in real life.

[jack1535]

This guy is just trying to start a argument for no reason. Felix could be traded, were not saying hes going to be, but it is possible. It doesnt matter if he won a cy young, is the "face of the franchise", or has 3 years left on his contract. He could be traded, so hes not untouchable.

Now back on subject, giving each tier a different point levels was good but I think we should find away to seperate the players that have different years left on their contracts or are over 30.

[1andonly]

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This guy is just trying to start a argument for no reason. Felix could be traded, were not saying hes going to be, but it is possible. It doesnt matter if he won a cy young, is the "face of the franchise", or has 3 years left on his contract. He could be traded, so hes not untouchable.

Now back on subject, giving each tier a different point levels was good but I think we should find away to seperate the players that have different years left on their contracts or are over 30.

Ya the guy was clearly an idiot.

Hmm ok. If They have less years on their contract how much should we have it affect their value? and People 30 or over should go down but how much?

[jack1535]

Ya the guy was clearly an idiot.

Hmm ok. If They have less years on their contract how much should we have it affect their value? and People 30 or over should go down but how much?

I think one point down if they 1-2 years on their contract and 2 points for over 30.

[1andonly]

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I think one point down if they 1-2 years on their contract and 2 points for over 30.

we could definitely do that. Also if everyone really wants all the real untouchables to be in the untouchable catagory I can do that. I was just asked by Tojan Man to not do that.

Here would be the list of untouchables. These players are either to elite for the team to trade, a top prospect, or a loved one by the franchise.


Albert Pujols
Miguel Cabrera
Josh Hamilton
Joey Votto
Robinson Cano
Evan Longoria
Ryan Zimmerman
Troy Tulowitzki
Hanley Ramirez
Joe Mauer
Buster Posey
Carlos Gonzalez
Joe Bautista
Ryan Braun
Matt Holliday
Matt Kemp
David Wright
Alex Rodriguez
Jose Reyes
Adrian Gonzalez
Carl Crawford
Andrew McCutchen
Jason Heyward
Mike Stanton
Colby Rasmus
Jay Bruce
Domonic Brown
Desmond Jennings
David Ortiz
Billy Butler
Kendrys Morales
Ike Davis
Freddie Freeman
Eric Hosmer
Dustin Pedrioa
Starlin Castro
Elvis Andrus
Kevin Youkilis
Carlos Santana
Matt Wieters
Justin Upton
Derek jeter
Chris Young
Curtis Granderson
Jacoby Ellsbury
Carlos Quentin
Gaby Sanchez
Justin Smoak
Wilson Ramos
Drew Stubbs
Chase Utley
Mark Teixeira
Ryan Howard
Paul Konerko
Roy Halladay
Tim Lincecum
Josh Johnson
Adam Wainwright
Cliff Lee
Justin Verlander
Jered Weaver
Trevor Cahill
Stephen Strasburg
Brian Wilson
Heath Bell
Mariano Rivera
Neftali Feliz
Aroldis Chapman
Michael Pineda
CC Sabathia
Zack Greinke
Dan Haren
Chris Carpenter
Roy Oswalt
Matt Cain
David Price
Clayton Kershaw
Brett Anderson
Mat Latos
Jaime Garcia
Tommy Hanson
Yovani Gallardo
Jon Lester
Zach britton
Madison Bumgarner
Jeremy Hellickson
Daniel Hudson
Brian Matusz
Danny Duffy
Rafael Soriano
Andrew Bailey
Joakim Soria
Matt Garza
Kyle Drabek
Aaron Crow
Jonathan Papelbon
Francisco Rodriguez
Carlos Marmol
Jonatah Broxton
Justin Masterson
Rick Porcello
Phil Hughes
Chris Perez
John Axford
Huston Street

[Sabo's corked Bat]

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I can tell you that Jay Bruce isn't going anywhere. At least not anytime soon trade wise. We put more effort into resigning him than we did with Votto.

So Id put him in Tier 1 or 2, just becasue of that.

Spoiler

I can also tell you that after one year in Franchise Bruce becomes a 90 overall and after year two, he gets into the 93-95 range. Hes gold glove, with streaks of clutch, gets an 84-87 overall speed rating and can hit the big breakers.

Its not just Homerism talking here. I wanted Votto to resign big before I wanted Bruce. Votto might be gone the year after next.

[1andonly]

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I can tell you that Jay Bruce isn't going anywhere. At least not anytime soon trade wise. We put more effort into resigning him than we did with Votto.

So Id put him in Tier 1 or 2, just becasue of that.

Spoiler

I can also tell you that after one year in Franchise Bruce becomes a 90 overall and after year two, he gets into the 93-95 range. Hes gold glove, with streaks of clutch, gets an 84-87 overall speed rating and can hit the big breakers.

Its not just Homerism talking here. I wanted Votto to resign big before I wanted Bruce. Votto might be gone the year after next.

Ya I have him at Tier 2. Whats weird is in a franchise I simulated like 3 years into the future Bruce was a 82. He never had a year over 20 homers and his best batting avg was like .250. I don't think he automatically becomes a 95 after like 2 years, only if you play good with him. But it's hard not to play good him lol. When I did use him in a franchise he was mashing for me.

[Sabo's corked Bat]

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Ya I have him at Tier 2. Whats weird is in a franchise I simulated like 3 years into the future Bruce was a 82. He never had a year over 20 homers and his best batting avg was like .250. I don't think he automatically becomes a 95 after like 2 years, only if you play good with him. But it's hard not to play good him lol. When I did use him in a franchise he was mashing for me.

True it does matter how you play with them and the rolling of the dice during simulated play. But the sick thing is that after three years, Bruce is still only 27. Thats pretty much why the Reds went all out with him instead of Votto, becasue hes younger.

What tier is Chapman in?

[1andonly]

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True it does matter how you play with them and the rolling of the dice during simulated play. But the sick thing is that after three years, Bruce is still only 27.

What tier is Chapman in?

Ya through like 30 games for me when I had Bruce, he had like 13 HR's. He is a monster in the field also.

Chapman is Tier 1

[1andonly]

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Using this trade Scale I traded for Colby Rasmus, Chris Young, and Wilson Ramos.

Colby Rasmus for Clayton Richard 80 4*, Jason Bartlett 4*, and Mike Adams 84 4*

Chris Young for Chris Denorfia 82 4*, and Kyle Blanks 78 4*, and Ernesto Frieri 4*

Wilson Ramos for Nick Hundley 71 3*, Jorge Cantu 76 4*, and Rich Hernandez 68 4* prospect.

I think I can finally say I feel good that these trades are even.

By the way, another hitter like Jay Bruce is Colby Rasmus CF from the Cardinals.

24 Years old, 72 contact, 79 power, and 84 speed, 5* potential

[Sabo's corked Bat]

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Using this trade Scale I traded for Colby Rasmus, Carlos Quentin, and Wilson Ramos.

Colby Rasmus for Clayton Richard 80 4*, Jason Bartlett 4*, and Mike Adams 84 4*

Carlos Quentin for Chris Denorfia 82 4*, and Kyle Blanks 78 4*

Wilson Ramos for Nick Hundley 71 3*, Jorge Cantu 76 4*, and Rich Hernandez 68 4* prospect.

I think I can finally say I feel good that these trades are even.

By the way, another hitter like Jay Bruce is Colby Rasmus CF from the Cardinals.

24 Years old, 72 contact, 79 power, and 84 speed, 5* potential

Yeah, but Colby is in his arbitration years ( I think he signed a one year deal?) though and Bruce just signed a 6 year contract with an option in 2017. Close player wise though, D nod goes to Bruce.