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**mjb2124** · 05-05-2004, 08:55 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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BDomon said:
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jmw1137 said:
Personally, I've noticed over the years (dating back to WSB on Dreamcast) that this game gives up the most homers to slider pitches. I very, very rarely throw them unless they're way outside...if it's a tight game try not throwing a slider...stick to fastballs up and in or low and away....depending on the players hot spots.

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I think you're right about this. Sliders that don't slide seem more common in this game than other breaking pitches not going where you want them - and I remember it from WSB, too. A slider is more uncommon and harder (for most) to throw than a curveball, so it makes some sense.

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You guys nailed it. As much as I hate Rex Hudler's announcing abilities in this game, he's right when he states "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball". So if you throw a slider, you better get it low and away.

The only other time I throw it is if I want to back door a guy - low and inside. I usually throw some hard stuff outside (FB, sinker, splitter, cutter) and then throw a slow slider on the lower inside part of the plate.

**Reddog2** · 05-05-2004, 09:11 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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joeboo said:
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BDomon said:
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jmw1137 said:
Personally, I've noticed over the years (dating back to WSB on Dreamcast) that this game gives up the most homers to slider pitches. I very, very rarely throw them unless they're way outside...if it's a tight game try not throwing a slider...stick to fastballs up and in or low and away....depending on the players hot spots.

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I think you're right about this. Sliders that don't slide seem more common in this game than other breaking pitches not going where you want them - and I remember it from WSB, too. A slider is more uncommon and harder (for most) to throw than a curveball, so it makes some sense.

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You guys nailed it. As much as I hate Rex Hudler's announcing abilities in this game, he's right when he states "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball". So if you throw a slider, you better get it low and away.

The only other time I throw it is if I want to back door a guy - low and inside. I usually throw some hard stuff outside (FB, sinker, splitter, cutter) and then throw a slow slider on the lower inside part of the plate.

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Ya know I cringe everytime I throw a low and away slider cause I know I am going to hear "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball

**Reddog2** · 05-05-2004, 09:11 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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joeboo said:
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BDomon said:
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jmw1137 said:
Personally, I've noticed over the years (dating back to WSB on Dreamcast) that this game gives up the most homers to slider pitches. I very, very rarely throw them unless they're way outside...if it's a tight game try not throwing a slider...stick to fastballs up and in or low and away....depending on the players hot spots.

<hr /></blockquote>

I think you're right about this. Sliders that don't slide seem more common in this game than other breaking pitches not going where you want them - and I remember it from WSB, too. A slider is more uncommon and harder (for most) to throw than a curveball, so it makes some sense.

<hr /></blockquote>

You guys nailed it. As much as I hate Rex Hudler's announcing abilities in this game, he's right when he states "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball". So if you throw a slider, you better get it low and away.

The only other time I throw it is if I want to back door a guy - low and inside. I usually throw some hard stuff outside (FB, sinker, splitter, cutter) and then throw a slow slider on the lower inside part of the plate.

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Ya know I cringe everytime I throw a low and away slider cause I know I am going to hear "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball

**Reddog2** · 05-05-2004, 09:11 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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joeboo said:
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BDomon said:
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jmw1137 said:
Personally, I've noticed over the years (dating back to WSB on Dreamcast) that this game gives up the most homers to slider pitches. I very, very rarely throw them unless they're way outside...if it's a tight game try not throwing a slider...stick to fastballs up and in or low and away....depending on the players hot spots.

<hr /></blockquote>

I think you're right about this. Sliders that don't slide seem more common in this game than other breaking pitches not going where you want them - and I remember it from WSB, too. A slider is more uncommon and harder (for most) to throw than a curveball, so it makes some sense.

<hr /></blockquote>

You guys nailed it. As much as I hate Rex Hudler's announcing abilities in this game, he's right when he states "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball". So if you throw a slider, you better get it low and away.

The only other time I throw it is if I want to back door a guy - low and inside. I usually throw some hard stuff outside (FB, sinker, splitter, cutter) and then throw a slow slider on the lower inside part of the plate.

<hr /></blockquote>

Ya know I cringe everytime I throw a low and away slider cause I know I am going to hear "A low and outside slider is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball

**Naednek** · 05-05-2004, 06:49 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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LIGHTNING said:
There is definitely catch up logic in this baseball game! The EA screw is alive and well in this game, but this is a SEGA baseball game. I had a three run lead in the bottom of the nineth inning and two outs with two base runners. The CPU batter hits a three run home run to tie the game! They win the game with a home run in 10th inning. This sucks! I have yet to play one game where I do not give up a home run!

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LOL that's not a catch up logic. You had 2 guys on base, and probably threw a bad pitch, and then he busted it right open. sounds like a user error.

You need to test this more than one game. Try to get a bigger lead and see what happens

**Naednek** · 05-05-2004, 06:49 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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LIGHTNING said:
There is definitely catch up logic in this baseball game! The EA screw is alive and well in this game, but this is a SEGA baseball game. I had a three run lead in the bottom of the nineth inning and two outs with two base runners. The CPU batter hits a three run home run to tie the game! They win the game with a home run in 10th inning. This sucks! I have yet to play one game where I do not give up a home run!

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LOL that's not a catch up logic. You had 2 guys on base, and probably threw a bad pitch, and then he busted it right open. sounds like a user error.

You need to test this more than one game. Try to get a bigger lead and see what happens

**Naednek** · 05-05-2004, 06:49 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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LIGHTNING said:
There is definitely catch up logic in this baseball game! The EA screw is alive and well in this game, but this is a SEGA baseball game. I had a three run lead in the bottom of the nineth inning and two outs with two base runners. The CPU batter hits a three run home run to tie the game! They win the game with a home run in 10th inning. This sucks! I have yet to play one game where I do not give up a home run!

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LOL that's not a catch up logic. You had 2 guys on base, and probably threw a bad pitch, and then he busted it right open. sounds like a user error.

You need to test this more than one game. Try to get a bigger lead and see what happens

**Cardot** · 05-05-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

A legitimate claim of "Catch Up Logic" not only requires multiple occurances, but the user needs to be the beneficiary on a few occaisions. Would you have had the same objection if it were you who hit the 3 run dinger in the 9th to tie the game?

A good test is to give the team a 15 run lead, and then see if the CPU allows you to score more than you usually do.

**Cardot** · 05-05-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

A legitimate claim of "Catch Up Logic" not only requires multiple occurances, but the user needs to be the beneficiary on a few occaisions. Would you have had the same objection if it were you who hit the 3 run dinger in the 9th to tie the game?

A good test is to give the team a 15 run lead, and then see if the CPU allows you to score more than you usually do.

**Cardot** · 05-05-2004, 08:33 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

A legitimate claim of "Catch Up Logic" not only requires multiple occurances, but the user needs to be the beneficiary on a few occaisions. Would you have had the same objection if it were you who hit the 3 run dinger in the 9th to tie the game?

A good test is to give the team a 15 run lead, and then see if the CPU allows you to score more than you usually do.

**Giants2003** · 05-05-2004, 10:50 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

Ill tell ya what !!! how bout i sell ya my MVP for xbox

i love ESPN it has been my main game the last 2 years i also have Allstar i can sell you that as well ? let me know

**Giants2003** · 05-05-2004, 10:50 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

Ill tell ya what !!! how bout i sell ya my MVP for xbox

i love ESPN it has been my main game the last 2 years i also have Allstar i can sell you that as well ? let me know

**Giants2003** · 05-05-2004, 10:50 PM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

Ill tell ya what !!! how bout i sell ya my MVP for xbox

i love ESPN it has been my main game the last 2 years i also have Allstar i can sell you that as well ? let me know

**Naednek** · 05-06-2004, 12:59 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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Giants2003 said:
Ill tell ya what !!! how bout i sell ya my MVP for xbox

i love ESPN it has been my main game the last 2 years i also have Allstar i can sell you that as well ? let me know

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Whoa Giants2003, I live in Cameron Park. Small world

**Naednek** · 05-06-2004, 12:59 AM

Re: CATCH UP LOGIC IS IN THIS GAME!!!!

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Giants2003 said:
Ill tell ya what !!! how bout i sell ya my MVP for xbox

i love ESPN it has been my main game the last 2 years i also have Allstar i can sell you that as well ? let me know

<hr /></blockquote>

Whoa Giants2003, I live in Cameron Park. Small world

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