HH's tweaked sliders.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

NO I have not tried that, I'll give it a shot.
Did you try using the directional swing with the hit stick? if so how did it
go?

P.S i'm starting to like the Zone1 pitching more and more

Yes, I really like it, it does add variety like classic hitting, but the contact/power ect... has to be really low, 0 or 5, or there are too many doubles and homers.

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Yes, I really like it, it does add variety like classic hitting, but the contact/power ect... has to be really low, 0 or 5, or there are too many doubles and homers.

Are you using the your sliders that you updated on post 23 like that or are
you using those with the human contact, power, and power swing at 0 and
step influence at 100?

I'm going to go play a game changing the contact power swing etc to 0 and step influence to 100
and i'll post my stats.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Are you using the your sliders that you updated on post 23 like that or are
you using those with the human contact, power, and power swing at 0 and
step influence at 100?

I'm going to go play a game changing the contact power swing etc to 0 and step influence to 100
and i'll post my stats.

Im trying both. I like using my house rules, so I'll probably stick with the ones I have. I'm very interested in your stats by the way you hit though.

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

OK, lets give this a shot. Give me some feedback guys. All house rules still apply.

Batter Contact: 30 for swing stick, 35 for classic
Batter Power: 10 for swing stick, 5 for classic
Batter Influence: 35 for swing stick, 25 for classic
Power Swing: 15 for swing stick, 0 for classic
Step Influence: 5 for swing stick, 0 for classic
Pitcher Difficulty: 100
Bunt Assistance: 25
Bunt for Hit: 15
Baserunner Speed: 100
Runner Steal Success: 60
Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 25
Speed Burst Length: 0
Speed Burst Power: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Pitcher Fatigue: 35
Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
Injuries: 0
Pitch Speed: 70

A.I. General Options

Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Throwing Aggression: 65
Hit and Run: 100
Sacrifice Bunt: 60
Squeeze Bunt: 35
Runner Aggression: 65
Steal Success: 60
Steal Second: 60
Steal Third: 30
Steal Home: 0
Diveback: 100

A.I. Batting Options

AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
Take strike overall-90***
Take strike ahead-90***
Take strike behind-65***
Take ball overall-90***
Take ball ahead-70***
Take ball behind-80***
Skill: 100
AI Contact: 55
AI Power: 50
Bunt for Hit: 40
Pitcher Difficulty: 0
Pitcher Effectiveness Mod: 100

AI Pitching Options

Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
Corner: 25
Change Speed: 100
Throw Strike Overall: 40
Throw Strike Ahead: 40
Throw Strike Behind: 50
Pitcher Fatigue: 45
Pickoff: 10
Pitchout: 55
Meat Pitch: 0

Ok here is my first game stats using these sliders with the changes you
suggested Human contact, power, swing influence etc. set to 0 and
step influence set to 100, using swing stick

--------------1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9----R----H----E
Mil (cpu)----1----0----4----0----0----0----0----2----2----9----13----0
Fla (me)----2----0----0----0----0----0----1----0----0----3-----9----0

Pitching
-------------------IP---H----R---ER---BB---K-----PT----S----B
Capuano (Mil)----8----8----3----2----1----14----100--74---26
Wise (Mil)--------1----0----0----0----0-----2

Olsen (Fla)-------5----7----5----5----1-----3-----66---40---26
Tankersley (Fla)-3.1--3----2-----2----0-----3
Messenger (Fla)-0.2--3----2-----2----0-----0

Hitting
----------------1b-----2b----3b----HR
Mil--------------2------4-----4-----3
Fla--------------7------1-----x-----1

I think alot of the extra base hit are my fault, i've been struggling with
the zone pitching, but I like it tho. I have not been real accurate there for leaving alot of meat pitches for the cpu to hit.
and most of the cpu K's are cause alot of time I lack Patience and start
to swing at everything thrown at me lol

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Ok here is my first game stats using these sliders with the changes you
suggested Human contact, power, swing influence etc. set to 0 and
step influence set to 100, using swing stick

--------------1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9----R----H----E
Mil (cpu)----1----0----4----0----0----0----0----2----2----9----13----0
Fla (me)----2----0----0----0----0----0----1----0----0----3-----9----0

Pitching
-------------------IP---H----R---ER---BB---K-----PT----S----B
Capuano (Mil)----8----8----3----2----1----14----100--74---26
Wise (Mil)--------1----0----0----0----0-----2

Olsen (Fla)-------5----7----5----5----1-----3-----66---40---26
Tankersley (Fla)-3.1--3----2-----2----0-----3
Messenger (Fla)-0.2--3----2-----2----0-----0

Hitting
----------------1b-----2b----3b----HR
Mil--------------2------4-----4-----3
Fla--------------7------1-----x-----1

I think alot of the extra base hit are my fault, i've been struggling with
the zone pitching, but I like it tho. I have not been real accurate there for leaving alot of meat pitches for the cpu to hit.
and most of the cpu K's are cause alot of time I lack Patience and start
to swing at everything thrown at me lol

wow, I really like the looks of that. I give up an average of 4-5 runs a game with zone pitching myself. There are just 2 or 3 times a game when that circle gets small, you give up a meat pitch that gets rocked. I have gotten through it on a couple occasions and have gotten shutouts, but it takes alot of concentration and a little luck until you get that big circle back. Sometimes I've noticed it's best to pitch around a big hitter and walk a guy until it comes back then go from there. Keep them coming ulua, and thanks for all your feedback. Looks like we are progressing.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

scratch this.

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

I well try those and reply back with my stats

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

I well try those and reply back with my stats

Zone pitching is too easy anything below 70 in my opinion, so I scratched that post. Stats would be good though if you finish it.

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Zone pitching is too easy anything below 70 in my opinion, so I scratched that post. Stats would be good though if you finish it.

i'm still getting used to zone pitching, but I used those sliders that you
scratched and here is my stats

----------1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9----r----h----e
Fla(me)---0----0----0----0----0----1----0----0----0----1----4----0
Hou-------0----0----0----1----3----0----1----0----x----5----11----0

Pitching
-------------ip-----h-----r-----er-----bb-----k-----pc-----b-----k
hou
williams------6-----3-----1-----1------1-----13----76------18---58
miller--------3-----1-----0------0------0-----3
fla
sanchez----4.1-----5----4------3------4-----3-----64------27----37
pinto-------1.2-----2----0------0------0-----0
owen-------1.1-----3----1------1------0-----0
gregg-------0.2-----1----0------0------0-----0

hitting
-----------1b-----2b-----3b-----hr
fla---------1------2-------0-----1
hou--------7------3-------0-----1

[chuckd23]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Sliders updated, I prefer swing stick and zone pitching. Adjusted AI hitting yet again, trying to find the perfect feel for this game, seems like 55 contact/50 power is the best combination, You have to change speeds and eye levels in order to get K's for human pitching. All house rules apply, recent update on post #23.

HighHeat: Any new updates? Have you tried tinkering with the "skill" slider like NJPappi's slider set? What caused you to change back to swing stick? I really think there is better hit variety with the classic swing. It is also more difficult to make solid contact, as in real life. I like the concept of swing stick, but I am getting far too many hits. It seems to easy to make solid contact.

I really like your settings for AI batting with regard to taking strikes and balls. Several of your settings are already perfect.

Still trying to find a balance with regard to AI contact, AI powers, AI Skill, and the pitching interface speed. At 100, the pitching interface makes it extremely difficult to avoid the middle part of the plate. I find that with zone pitching, if you miss your mark it is very likely an AI homerun, even by players that don't have a lot of power. Thanks again for your hardwork.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

HighHeat: Any new updates? Have you tried tinkering with the "skill" slider like NJPappi's slider set? What caused you to change back to swing stick? I really think there is better hit variety with the classic swing. It is also more difficult to make solid contact, as in real life. I like the concept of swing stick, but I am getting far too many hits. It seems to easy to make solid contact.

I really like your settings for AI batting with regard to taking strikes and balls. Several of your settings are already perfect.

Still trying to find a balance with regard to AI contact, AI powers, AI Skill, and the pitching interface speed. At 100, the pitching interface makes it extremely difficult to avoid the middle part of the plate. I find that with zone pitching, if you miss your mark it is very likely an AI homerun, even by players that don't have a lot of power. Thanks again for your hardwork.

I have settings in my last post for both classic and swing stick. I've been playing around with both of them. The variety is there for both, but more for classic hitting. I find swing stick more realistic though because I use the pull and release tactic on every swing except for meat pitches. And I have had shots down the line, etc....so both are really acceptable when if comes to hitting.

I like my take ball/strike sliders as well. I'll forever stick with them.

Now, the AI hitting. This is the only part of the game I really hate. It's kept me from playing my season on many occasions. I just can't find the right balance. I like 55 for contact, 50 for power, but strikeouts are far and few between. I tried Papi's settings, but it's pretty much the same boat, plus you have to raise pitch speed to 90+ in order for the AI to hit well. If you do that, we'll never catch up to the pitch with classic hitting. I'm open for any suggestions for AI hitting, I don't want to lower the skill or effective mod, it results in not enough offense for the AI. I've thought of 55 contact/45 power, but it seems 55/50 is the most equal ground I can find.

Latest update is on page #3, post #23. Keep the feedback and suggestions coming guys. I want to start my season by this weekend.

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

i'm still getting used to zone pitching, but I used those sliders that you
scratched and here is my stats

----------1----2----3----4----5----6----7----8----9----r----h----e
Fla(me)---0----0----0----0----0----1----0----0----0----1----4----0
Hou-------0----0----0----1----3----0----1----0----x----5----11----0

Pitching
-------------ip-----h-----r-----er-----bb-----k-----pc-----b-----k
hou
williams------6-----3-----1-----1------1-----13----76------18---58
miller--------3-----1-----0------0------0-----3
fla
sanchez----4.1-----5----4------3------4-----3-----64------27----37
pinto-------1.2-----2----0------0------0-----0
owen-------1.1-----3----1------1------0-----0
gregg-------0.2-----1----0------0------0-----0

hitting
-----------1b-----2b-----3b-----hr
fla---------1------2-------0-----1
hou--------7------3-------0-----1

These look really good ulua, I like the hit variety. Are you still pushing up and around on the swing stick? I know I had pitch speed set at 65 for these, I think I had corner at 30, overall strikes at 45 and throw strikes behind at 60, right?

How was the overall feel of the game for you? Maybe we need to move the contact up to 5 or 10. AI strikeouts look a little high.

How come your pitcher only went 4.1 IP? Maybe we need to lower fatigue on human side by 5 as well.

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

These look really good ulua, I like the hit variety. Are you still pushing up and around on the swing stick? I know I had pitch speed set at 65 for these, I think I had corner at 30, overall strikes at 45 and throw strikes behind at 60, right?

How was the overall feel of the game for you? Maybe we need to move the contact up to 5 or 10. AI strikeouts look a little high.

How come your pitcher only went 4.1 IP? Maybe we need to lower fatigue on human side by 5 as well.

yah I really like these sliders, I took him out casue he was getting pounded
and had to bring in some one to stop the bleeding lol

[ulua]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Hey HH,
These are the sliders i'm using right now these are your sliders and the
the one in RED are the ones you suggested for me for my style of batting
with the swing stick, however there is one change that I made in BLUE
AI SKILL I changed it form 100 to 85 and this helped to eliminate a lot of
the cpu HR's, I started a game and thru 4 it was a pitchers duo it was 0 -0
thur in the 5th they scored 4 and came back to score 2 but had to stop
playing in the 7th had to go out. thur 7 I only gave up 1 hr and a few
doubles and triples so I think the hit variation is still there. but like I said
it was only half a game, I will play a few more games with AI skill at 85
and will post my stats.

Batter Contact: 10
Batter Power: 0
Batter Influence: 0
Power Swing: 0
Step Influence: 100
Pitcher Difficulty: 100
Bunt Assistance: 25
Bunt for Hit: 15
Baserunner Speed: 100
Runner Steal Success: 60
Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 25
Speed Burst Length: 0
Speed Burst Power: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Pitcher Fatigue: 35
Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
Injuries: 0
Pitch Speed: 65

A.I. General Options

Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Throwing Aggression: 65
Hit and Run: 100
Sacrifice Bunt: 60
Squeeze Bunt: 35
Runner Aggression: 65
Steal Success: 60
Steal Second: 60
Steal Third: 30
Steal Home: 0
Diveback: 100

A.I. Batting Options

AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
Take strike overall-90***
Take strike ahead-90***
Take strike behind-65***
Take ball overall-90***
Take ball ahead-70***
Take ball behind-80***
Skill: 85
AI Contact: 55
AI Power: 50
Bunt for Hit: 40
Pitcher Difficulty: 0
Pitcher Effectiveness Mod: 100

AI Pitching Options

Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
Corner: 30
Change Speed: 100
Throw Strike Overall: 45
Throw Strike Ahead: 40
Throw Strike Behind: 60
Pitcher Fatigue: 45
Pickoff: 10
Pitchout: 55
Meat Pitch: 0

[highheatkingsb]

Re: HH's tweaked sliders.

Hey HH,
These are the sliders i'm using right now these are your sliders and the
the one in RED are the ones you suggested for me for my style of batting
with the swing stick, however there is one change that I made in BLUE
AI SKILL I changed it form 100 to 85 and this helped to eliminate a lot of
the cpu HR's, I started a game and thru 4 it was a pitchers duo it was 0 -0
thur in the 5th they scored 4 and came back to score 2 but had to stop
playing in the 7th had to go out. thur 7 I only gave up 1 hr and a few
doubles and triples so I think the hit variation is still there. but like I said
it was only half a game, I will play a few more games with AI skill at 85
and will post my stats.

Batter Contact: 10
Batter Power: 0
Batter Influence: 0
Power Swing: 0
Step Influence: 100
Pitcher Difficulty: 100
Bunt Assistance: 25
Bunt for Hit: 15
Baserunner Speed: 100
Runner Steal Success: 60
Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Reaction Speed: 10
Outfielder Reaction Speed: 25
Speed Burst Length: 0
Speed Burst Power: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Pitcher Fatigue: 35
Pitcher Interface Speed: 100
Injuries: 0
Pitch Speed: 65

A.I. General Options

Infielder Errors: 70
Outfielder Errors: 80
Infielder Speed: 20
Outfielder Speed: 45
Catcher Throw Speed: 0
Infielder Throw Speed: 0
Outfielder Throw Speed: 0
Fielder Aggression: 0
Throwing Aggression: 65
Hit and Run: 100
Sacrifice Bunt: 60
Squeeze Bunt: 35
Runner Aggression: 65
Steal Success: 60
Steal Second: 60
Steal Third: 30
Steal Home: 0
Diveback: 100

A.I. Batting Options

AI Batters use Inside Edge:ON
Take strike overall-90***
Take strike ahead-90***
Take strike behind-65***
Take ball overall-90***
Take ball ahead-70***
Take ball behind-80***
Skill: 85
AI Contact: 55
AI Power: 50
Bunt for Hit: 40
Pitcher Difficulty: 0
Pitcher Effectiveness Mod: 100

AI Pitching Options

Pitchers use Inside Edge: ON
Corner: 30
Change Speed: 100
Throw Strike Overall: 45
Throw Strike Ahead: 40
Throw Strike Behind: 60
Pitcher Fatigue: 45
Pickoff: 10
Pitchout: 55
Meat Pitch: 0

Sounds great, looking forward to the stats. Maybe up the pitch speed back to 70 and drop the other sliders back to where they were as well if the AI beginst not hitting well with skill at 85.