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  • Dungeoncrawler
    Rookie
    • Sep 2008
    • 91

    #406
    Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

    The more I play this game, the more I'm convinced that things are pre-determined.
    witnessed it first-hand. ai controlled team had a runner on second base. at the plate batter hit a single out into shallow center. the dot that represented the runner on second suddenly went into overdrive. it appeared it was pre-determined the runner would make it across the plate regardless. the increase in speed looked unrealistic.

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    • Dolfan349
      Rookie
      • Apr 2005
      • 179

      #407
      Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

      Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler
      witnessed it first-hand. ai controlled team had a runner on second base. at the plate batter hit a single out into shallow center. the dot that represented the runner on second suddenly went into overdrive. it appeared it was pre-determined the runner would make it across the plate regardless. the increase in speed looked unrealistic.
      Yep, this is the comeback AI I've been seeing. No matter how many runs I score in some games, the cpu just mashes until they get the lead.

      This has happened less and less with further slider tweaks from mk, but it's definitely out there.

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      • Mickeyknoxx
        Rookie
        • Nov 2008
        • 186

        #408
        Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

        Originally posted by Dolfan349
        Yep, this is the comeback AI I've been seeing. No matter how many runs I score in some games, the cpu just mashes until they get the lead.

        This has happened less and less with further slider tweaks from mk, but it's definitely out there.
        I don't think the game works this way.. Play well and You can win.. Play Bad and you should lose most of times..

        The biggest component it's composure and cpu contact... when you are pitching... you have to work the count, throw balls, don't give presents after u give up a hit...

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        • TheShizNo1
          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
          • Mar 2007
          • 26341

          #409
          Yea, I don't feel like any of my games are cheap. When I start swinging at everything and being sloppy w/ my pitches, the game will get out of hand.

          When I stay focused, I know at the very least, I'll stay competitive.
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          **** ya


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          • wudl83
            Pro
            • Jun 2011
            • 627

            #410
            Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

            Originally posted by Mickeyknoxx
            I don't think the game works this way.. Play well and You can win.. Play Bad and you should lose most of times..

            The biggest component it's composure and cpu contact... when you are pitching... you have to work the count, throw balls, don't give presents after u give up a hit...
            I edited Sergio Romo in my own roster and now he is the 2nd or 3rd best setup man in the game with control and composure in the 80s.

            I could pitch as good as I wanted, I blew with him a 4-0 lead because even the worst CPU hitters hit everything.

            Can you tell me why? ^^
            Last edited by wudl83; 04-10-2012, 11:22 AM.

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            • Mickeyknoxx
              Rookie
              • Nov 2008
              • 186

              #411
              Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

              Originally posted by wudl83
              I edited Sergio Romo in my own roster and now he is the 2nd or 3rd best setup man in the game with control and composure in the 80s.

              I could pitch as good as I wanted, I blew with him a 4-0 lead because even the worst CPU hitters hit everything.

              Can you tell me why? ^^
              Because sometimes even the good ones have a bad day... play with him in 5 games in the same situation and tell me how this goes...

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              • wudl83
                Pro
                • Jun 2011
                • 627

                #412
                Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                Originally posted by Mickeyknoxx
                Because sometimes even the good ones have a bad day... play with him in 5 games in the same situation and tell me how this goes...
                Maybe, but one cannot deny that there are some situations that occur very often. And setup pitchers giving up leads is one.

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                • DetroitStyle
                  Meow
                  • May 2011
                  • 1045

                  #413
                  Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                  Originally posted by mkharsh33
                  - raise cpu AI pitch success to 80 (up from 75). I just played tonight's Royals (me) at Athletics (cpu). The cpu didn't strike me out once!!!! Was very frustrating. Lower the user hit contact back down to 25 and you'll get 4-5 (maybe 6) pitch at-bats because you can't make good enough contact to foul off pitches..
                  Pitch success only determines how accurate the CPU is in hitting their set locations. It won't really cause more user strikeouts unless you just look at a bunch of called third strikes on the corners. I think the only think to help user strikeouts is pitch speed. If you have less time to react to a pitch the more likely you are to swing and miss. However, that is until you get used to the speed.

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                  • mkharsh33
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 12779

                    #414
                    Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                    Originally posted by DetroitStyle
                    Pitch success only determines how accurate the CPU is in hitting their set locations. It won't really cause more user strikeouts unless you just look at a bunch of called third strikes on the corners. I think the only think to help user strikeouts is pitch speed. If you have less time to react to a pitch the more likely you are to swing and miss. However, that is until you get used to the speed.
                    ...which now puts us back to no bloop hits, more hard line drive outs to the infielders, and rockets coming off the bats.

                    ...lower user power, and then see long stretches (4-6 games) with no home runs.

                    Again, plug one hole...open up 3 others. Frustrating.
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                    • mike sherman
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 198

                      #415
                      Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                      All I know is... I can't get a base hit to save my life. Every damn ball is either a ground out or pop fly. This is not looking good.
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqbQr...&feature=share
                      Hear what they keep talkin bout!

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                      • Mickeyknoxx
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 186

                        #416
                        Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                        One thing that we should do is to test. Using the same references. I mean using the same teams and exactly the same sliders. that's the only way the get a conclusion and to see how different our level of play...

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                        • mkharsh33
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 12779

                          #417
                          Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                          Originally posted by mike sherman
                          All I know is... I can't get a base hit to save my life. Every damn ball is either a ground out or pop fly. This is not looking good.
                          I don't have this problem... Last game I played I hit 3 doubles and a HR. I got 11 hits total. The problem is that I couldn't get the CPU to strike me out.

                          All you need to do is tweak to fit YOUR style of play... Simple fix for you: raise pitch speed back up to 75. and then go with the user batting contact of 30 / user batting power 55. Just go back a few pages in this thread to see the prior adjustments. Make the experience unique to you if it's too hard. These are simply a base...
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                          • wudl83
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 627

                            #418
                            Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                            Originally posted by mkharsh33
                            ...which now puts us back to no bloop hits, more hard line drive outs to the infielders, and rockets coming off the bats.

                            ...lower user power, and then see long stretches (4-6 games) with no home runs.

                            Again, plug one hole...open up 3 others. Frustrating.
                            Have you tried operating with pich break?

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                            • mkharsh33
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 12779

                              #419
                              Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                              Lowering pitch break makes pitching easier because you don't have to account for as much break when you spot your pitches. Doesn't help...only makes you a more effective pitcher, so you'd have to really lower user control.
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                              • wudl83
                                Pro
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 627

                                #420
                                Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

                                Originally posted by mkharsh33
                                Lowering pitch break makes pitching easier because you don't have to account for as much break when you spot your pitches. Doesn't help...only makes you a more effective pitcher, so you'd have to really lower user control.
                                I meant if you tested a higher pitch break for the CPU to make your strikeouts higher.

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