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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by ExtremeGamer -
Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Another rumor that I heard...
Cleveland gets: Kearns, Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach
Cleveland gives: Westbrook, Crisp, Riske
Boston gets: Crisp, Riske
Boston gives: Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach
Cincy gives: Kearns
Cincy gets: Westbrook
This was second hand from a radio appearance by Sheldon Ocker from the Akron Beacon Journal, so take it for what its worth.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
I'd like that deal you mentioned.
Get Crisp without giving up Marte is the best case scenario.
Also Cam, I agree with everything you've said so far. The red Sox aren't in the situation everyone seems to think. A deal will come along, when some team wants pitching and offers a CF, whether or not it's as good as Crisp. I really don't see the Sox giving up much more than Marte, Mota and Shoppach for just Crisp.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by Longhorn6I'd like that deal you mentioned.
Get Crisp without giving up Marte is the best case scenario.
Also Cam, I agree with everything you've said so far. The red Sox aren't in the situation everyone seems to think. A deal will come along, when some team wants pitching and offers a CF, whether or not it's as good as Crisp. I really don't see the Sox giving up much more than Marte, Mota and Shoppach for just Crisp.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
I would not like that trade at all. I say we get Marte or we get no one. He can be our 3rd basemen for the future. Put him with Hafner, Martinez, Peralta, Sizemore and Garko in a years time and we're rolling.http://flotn.blogspot.com
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Originally posted by trobinson97Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by camulosAnother rumor that I heard...
Cleveland gets: Kearns, Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach
Cleveland gives: Westbrook, Crisp, Riske
Boston gets: Crisp, Riske
Boston gives: Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach
Cincy gives: Kearns
Cincy gets: Westbrook
This was second hand from a radio appearance by Sheldon Ocker from the Akron Beacon Journal, so take it for what its worth.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by Longhorn6I'd like that deal you mentioned.
Get Crisp without giving up Marte is the best case scenario.
Also Cam, I agree with everything you've said so far. The red Sox aren't in the situation everyone seems to think. A deal will come along, when some team wants pitching and offers a CF, whether or not it's as good as Crisp. I really don't see the Sox giving up much more than Marte, Mota and Shoppach for just Crisp.
I'm with you guys, I'd do the above trade, but honestly I think we should consider Kearns for Clement (and maybe something extra like Graff or a B prospect), especially if Shapiro balks at it. Asking us to a sweeten a bad deal is a sign to me that we need a stronger plan B, and Austin Kearns is just that. If Delcarmen is the difference between the two, I can't necessarily disagree. But if we don't sweeten the old deal (and we won't) and can only give up so much in a three way, giving up Marte should be viewed as completely unacceptable going forward.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by CWood2I'm with you guys, I'd do the above trade, but honestly I think we should consider Kearns for Clement (and maybe something extra like Graff or a B prospect), especially if Shapiro balks at it. Asking us to a sweeten a bad deal is a sign to me that we need a stronger plan B, and Austin Kearns is just that. If Delcarmen is the difference between the two, I can't necessarily disagree. But if we don't sweeten the old deal (and we won't) and can only give up so much in a three way, giving up Marte should be viewed as completely unacceptable going forward.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by camulosAnother rumor that I heard...
Cleveland gets: Kearns, Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach, cash
Cleveland gives: Westbrook, Crisp, Riske
Boston gets: Crisp, Riske, Bard
Boston gives: Clement, Delcarmen, Shoppach, cash
Cincy gives: Kearns
Cincy gets: Westbrook
This was second hand from a radio appearance by Sheldon Ocker from the Akron Beacon Journal, so take it for what its worth.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Just to clear up about mota "failing" his physical as reported on espn.com
"Multiple sources say Mota didn't technically "fail" his physical with the Indians. But his examination raised enough questions that the Indians have told Boston they will keep Mota only if the Red Sox upgrade the rest of the package, which originally had Mota, third-base prospect Andy Marte and catching prospect Kelly Shoppach heading for Cleveland, with Crisp, reliever David Riske and catcher Josh Bard landing in Boston."Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
As far as Mota "failing," it was reported on WEEI over lunch that the general consensus is that Shapiro got cold feet and used this to up the anti. Apparently he felt pressure to look more towards next season as opposed to 2-3 years down the road and they feel Delcarmen could be big for them in the bullpen right away. Personally, since they value Kearns and he's already had a good season in the show, I hope this three way works out.
If not, I'd jump all over Kearns as cam said and ask about Coco afterwards. Personally, if we could beat Cleveland to the punch on him, it might just save us Delcarmen...and the Reds really wanted Clement last year. But the conflicting reports continue, so we'll see...
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2307396Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by MisfitThat would be a nice deal, but I dont see it happening. Ultimately, I think nothing is going to happen today and the Red Sox will move on.
With the A's signing of Frank Thomas moving Nick Swisher back into the A's crowded Outfield Jay Payton is definitley available and would come at a much cheaper price than what the Indians are asking for. If i were the Sox i would trade for Payton, tell the Indians where they can stick it and try and sign Torii Hunter next winter.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by rsoxWith the A's signing of Frank Thomas moving Nick Swisher back into the A's crowded Outfield Jay Payton is definitley available and would come at a much cheaper price than what the Indians are asking for. If i were the Sox i would trade for Payton, tell the Indians where they can stick it and try and sign Torii Hunter next winter.
The Cards will only carry 5 OF's most likely and right now you have 3 pretty much locked in to start: Bigbie, Edmonds and Encarnacion. John Rodriguez could challenege for a starting spot after a HOT winterball. So there's 4. That leaves the Cards to fill in the last spot between Taguchi, Ankiel, Gall, Hearther, and Scheumaker(sp?) Taguchi is defiently the lead candidate and would win the job easily if he's not dealt.
The underlying saga here that coud free Taguchi up to a trade is that the Cards are very high on Ankiel after the year he had in the minors last season and at 26 is actually their top minor league OF prospect. The problem is, he is out of minor league options. If the Cards want to keep him and send him to the minors he would have to clear waivers, something that is not likely in his case as another team would probaly try and claim him off waivers. So the Cards may be willing to listen to offers for one of their OF's in order to not lose Ankiel and give him a shot at the bigs.Last edited by BoSoxPujols; 01-27-2006, 12:50 AM.Comment
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Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp
Originally posted by BoSoxPujolsI'm surprised the Red Sox haven't contacted the Cardinals who have a pretty loaded OF now after signging Encarnacion and Bigbie. The Red Sox could pry a guy like So Taguchi away from the Cards for pretty cheap and he would be a really good fit in Boston, and is a heck of a player. Not only doe she bring a SUPERB glove to the OF, he can bat all over the lineup, from the 2 hole to the 6 and 7 spots.
I don't think Taguchi is a realistic option. He is not a starter and would not be an upgrade over Stern.Comment
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