Coco Crisp to Boston....

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Uh...why would the Indians want Shoppach? They already have V-Mart at catcher and Hafner as DH...If they do get him I think they'll trade him for something else.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Yes you certainly would. I'd be surprised if Delcarmen is included though.

As would I, but one can always dream.

[Stu]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Uh...why would the Indians want Shoppach? They already have V-Mart at catcher and Hafner as DH...If they do get him I think they'll trade him for something else.

Shoppach is a backup, nothing more.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Uh...why would the Indians want Shoppach? They already have V-Mart at catcher and Hafner as DH...If they do get him I think they'll trade him for something else.

We need a backup catcher you know... and it's good to have a good back up. I have no problem trading quite possibly the worst hitting catcher ever in Bard for a back up with a decent stick like Shoppach.

[BoSoxPujols]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Taguchi would make a nice 4th Outfielder, but not a starting Centerfielder. At 36 it is unlikely that Taguchi will improve beyond what we have already seen. I'm not going to say that Taguchi is or is not an upgrade over Stern-because we don't know what Stern can do, 15 AB's is not enough to indicate what kind of a player Stern is, or will be.

You don't need him to improve a ton though. 1 or 2 solid seasons while keeping the spot warm for Ellsbury or Stern.

[Stu]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

You don't need him to improve a ton though. 1 or 2 solid seasons while keeping the spot warm for Ellsbury or Stern.

Are Stern or Ellsbury that much of a sure thing that we should look for a temporary fill in? I certainly don't think so.

[Stu]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5282852

The Sox and Indians are close to completing their much-discussed, multi-player trade in which the Sox will acquire Crisp to be their new center fielder, FOXSports.com has learned.

The exact particulars of the Red Sox-Indians trade are not known, but it is expected that the Indians will receive top third-base prospect Andy Marte and reliever Guillermo Mota.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Rhodes to the phillies is done, so now the indians have Michaels, so now they are working on the Boston deal it is confirmed that is done on espn.com(the rhodes deal that is), also Jake Westbrook for Austin Kearns is heating back up and could also go through soon.

[CWood2]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Are Stern or Ellsbury that much of a sure thing that we should look for a temporary fill in? I certainly don't think so.

I think what he means is that we don't have to find the future of our center field position this offseason when it will cost us an arm, a leg, and a kidney. Even without Delcarmen in the deal, Shapiro has taken away an option in Michaels and is beating us to Kearns according to varying reports. I don't like negotiating with this guy, and even if Payton isn't your answer, I have to think a guy like Brad Wilkerson could come at Clement/Shoppach/cash. Even if Marte belly flops and Crisp is the next Damon (which he isn't), these trade talks have been a mockery.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Yes you certainly would. I'd be surprised if Delcarmen is included though.

From what I hear on http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2308605

Manny D is not in the deal but some other prospect or cash is in the deal.

[Ckhoss29]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

I think what he means is that we don't have to find the future of our center field position this offseason when it will cost us an arm, a leg, and a kidney. Even without Delcarmen in the deal, Shapiro has taken away an option in Michaels and is beating us to Kearns according to varying reports. I don't like negotiating with this guy, and even if Payton isn't your answer, I have to think a guy like Brad Wilkerson could come at Clement/Shoppach/cash. Even if Marte belly flops and Crisp is the next Damon (which he isn't), these trade talks have been a mockery.

Shows how desperate the Red Sox are at getting Crisp though, I am kind of surprised they are going along with it all, but then again Shapiro isn't a push over like some might think that is why I love him as a GM.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

well he wasn't GM of the year for nothing.

[CWood2]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Shows how desperate the Red Sox are at getting Crisp though, I am kind of surprised they are going along with it all, but then again Shapiro isn't a push over like some might think that is why I love him as a GM.

I'm pretty close to hating the guy, but not because he doesn't know what he's doing.

It's believed they have offered to included a prospect other than Delcarmen, plus some sort of future considerations if Mota has any significant health issues during the season.

So in other words, we actually listened when Shapiro put the honus on us for a fake failed physical and tried to invent an "injury considerations" clause into the world of baseball trades. Before, I hated the trade...now, I'm just embarrassed.

[Beantown]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Eh, I still don't mind the trade.

I'd ratehr have Crisp than Marte.

[CWood2]

Re: Boston to trade Marte and Mota for Crisp

Eh, I still don't mind the trade.

I'd ratehr have Crisp than Marte.

I'd rather have Kearns and Marte.