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  • Scottdau
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    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #31
    Re: ESPN and Bonds

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    Are you high. He's never shown a very good arm. Hell had he a good arm, Pittsburgh would have had a WS berth in 92.

    I have never, ever heard one baseball person say anything other than that's his weak point, he's horrible throwing.

    His arm is weak, but his release and accuracy is right on point. So that does help a lot. The ball was right there, sure it could have been there faster, but it still a perfect throw! And in his prime I have witness a lot of great throws from Bonds!

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    • poster
      All Star
      • Nov 2003
      • 7506

      #32
      Re: ESPN and Bonds

      There is no doubt that Albert is the best player in baseball, and he didnt need roids to do it.

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      • bkrich83
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        • Jul 2002
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        #33
        Re: ESPN and Bonds

        Originally posted by Scottd
        His arm is weak, but his release and accuracy is right on point. So that does help a lot. The ball was right there, sure it could have been there faster, but it still a perfect throw! And in his prime I have witness a lot of great throws from Bonds!
        LMAO!!!!
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        • mjb2124
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13649

          #34
          Re: ESPN and Bonds

          Originally posted by Blzer
          You know when Pujols will become a better player in my eyes? When he ends up hitting more home runs than striking out (and it's gotta be at least 40+ home runs, I'd say), or when he wins a few Gold Gloves at his position (a reason why many people believe that Ortiz did not deserve MVP was because he was a DH... I believe that a non-superb defensive 1B is just the same thing, meaning they are only there because they aren't much better at anything else) He used to be at 3B... what happened? Don't say that Rolen happened. Let's just say that now Pujols has time to become an offensive juggernaut now. Bonds only does because his knees can't handle what he used to do, which is another thing for Pujols... being able to steal bases.

          Come on, Bonds is a 500/500 guy (well, actually... 700/500). Pujols is a two-tool player. Bonds at his peak was a five-tool easily, and now probably a 3 1/2 - tool.
          Blzer - Bonds had one year where he had more HR's than strikeouts. That was 2004. He struck out much closer to 100 times per season early in his career (where Pujols is now). That entire stat is not a very good measure of greatness or being a good player.

          Pujols is hardly just a 2 tool player. He hits for average, hits for power, runs slightly above average (16 SB's last year) and fields his position well despite playing many different positions in his short career.

          Pujols actually switched around from LF to 3B early in his career and obviously now is at 1B. He's played 309 games in the outfield, 1 at SS, 96 at 3B and 433 at 1B. Yes Rolen forced the move because Rolen is a Gold Glove 3B.

          Barry never had a strong throwing arm. Even in his heyday in Pittsburgh. He did have a fairly accurate arm though. Unless the 2 surgically repaired knee'd Sid Bream was trying to score from 2B on a hit to LF.

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          • Brandon13
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            • Oct 2005
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            #35
            Re: ESPN and Bonds

            Originally posted by poster
            There is no doubt that Albert is the best player in baseball, and he didnt need roids to do it.
            Disagree. I really do not like Bonds and believe he is a cheater but with the game on the line the last person you want to see up at the plate is Barry Bonds. (Atleast he's the last person that I would want to see at the plate.)

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            • Blzer
              Resident film pundit
              • Mar 2004
              • 42524

              #36
              Re: ESPN and Bonds

              Originally posted by poster
              There is no doubt that Albert is the best player in baseball, and he didnt need roids to do it.
              Who says he's not taking steroids?



              And joeboo, apparently from what you're saying... if you like the team, you like the player (and vice versa). Well, I'm happy that Snow is gone. Everybody in the world loves Snow, and I just really don't see it. I'm sorry. Anyway, Bonds was on your team, correct? What did you think of him? Did you like him? Do you not like him now because of his steroid usage or something? If he was still on your team, are you saying that you would think differently?


              Also, once a Hall of Famer, always a Hall of Famer. That is what I believe it should be. If Bonds was once considered (in your eyes) a Hall of Famer after retirement, and all of the sudden started becoming a steroid freak, he would no longer be a Hall of Famer?
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              • Karlos05
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                • Mar 2003
                • 5814

                #37
                Re: ESPN and Bonds

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                Are you high. He's never shown a very good arm. Hell had he a good arm, Pittsburgh would have had a WS berth in 92.

                I have never, ever heard one baseball person say anything other than that's his weak point, he's horrible throwing.
                Sid Bream

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                • bkrich83
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #38
                  Re: ESPN and Bonds

                  Originally posted by Karlos05
                  Sid Bream
                  I could have punted that ball home and beaten Bream to the plate.
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                  • bravosfan
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5184

                    #39
                    Re: ESPN and Bonds

                    Originally posted by joeboo
                    Barry never had a strong throwing arm. Even in his heyday in Pittsburgh. He did have a fairly accurate arm though. Unless the 2 surgically repaired knee'd Sid Bream was trying to score from 2B on a hit to LF.


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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #40
                      Re: ESPN and Bonds

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      LMAO!!!!

                      You can laugh all you want doesnt change the fact that it is true!

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                      • bkrich83
                        Has Been
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71582

                        #41
                        Re: ESPN and Bonds

                        Originally posted by Scottd
                        You can laugh all you want doesnt change the fact that it is true!
                        Which is funny, because your posts lack of facts or truth are exactly what was making me laugh.
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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #42
                          Re: ESPN and Bonds

                          Originally posted by BraveGamer


                          It is all about angle too. But he should have got him, but it wasn't a bang bang play!

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                          • Karlos05
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5814

                            #43
                            Re: ESPN and Bonds

                            Originally posted by BraveGamer


                            The sad thing is he's moving faster in that .gif than he was in real life.

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                            • Brandon13
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 8915

                              #44
                              Re: ESPN and Bonds

                              Originally posted by Karlos05
                              The sad thing is he's moving faster in that .gif than he was in real life.
                              But at any speed he's still safe.

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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #45
                                Re: ESPN and Bonds

                                Originally posted by Karlos05
                                The sad thing is he's moving faster in that .gif than he was in real life.
                                No kidding it seemed like a lifetime for him to just round 3rd.
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