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  • Scottdau
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #226
    Re: ESPN and Bonds

    Originally posted by BGarrett7
    And I care about winning games the way it supposed to be done. If Chipper were to test positive for an illegal performance enhancer, then his assisting in winning games would not be the way it should be done. It makes the wins tainted, and that simply doesn't cut it for me.

    I mentioned a list of my favorite players earlier in this thread. As I said then, if one of them were to get caught, I'm off their bandwagon.
    All I will say is when it happens to you then you will understand, It is a hell of lot easier to say what you would do!

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    • BGarrett7
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 5890

      #227
      Re: ESPN and Bonds

      Originally posted by Scottd
      All I will say is when it happens to you then you will understand, It is a hell of lot easier to say what you would do!
      I had no problem not rooting for Kenny Lofton, Gary Sheffield, Dan Kolb, and a host of other Braves through the years. I'm already very well aware of what it's like to hate a player on my team.

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      • mjb2124
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 13649

        #228
        Re: ESPN and Bonds

        Originally posted by Scottd
        Maybe you expert that explain this to me. Especially you BK. How can Bonds still be so freaking Hugh and he is off steroids. All of my friend that took them lose it real fast when they stop! Just curious. When Jason G stop he looked way smaller, especially I Rod. This is the one thing I can't understand! So BK I know you have an answer, so I would really be thank for one. I am not joking I am for real! My one friend is still pretty big, but we think he is still on them!
        How do you know he's off of them?

        The masking agents that companies like BALCO make are pretty good. Not to mention that if he was in fact taking HGH, it's STILL not tested for and never will be tested for (unless they have a blood test).

        Remember that this urine test is very weak. It should be easy to pass for most higher profile guys - which is what makes Palmiero and the steroid he took so unbelievable. It was such a low level steroid that's been detectable for years. I wonder if his masking agent didn't work or became detectable.


        EDIT - For what it's worth, if any Pirate was found of being on steroids, I'd instantely dislike him. Just the way I am. Guys that do that don't deserve my respect.

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        • BGarrett7
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 5890

          #229
          Re: Bonds on Bonds......

          "It's like a Hank Aaron story, but with a different subject..."

          You make me sick.

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          • Scottdau
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 32580

            #230
            Re: ESPN and Bonds

            Originally posted by BGarrett7
            I had no problem not rooting for Kenny Lofton, Gary Sheffield, Dan Kolb, and a host of other Braves through the years. I'm already very well aware of what it's like to hate a player on my team.
            But all kidding aside this is Bonds, no one has mean more to the team then Barry Bonds! When are always in it every year and that is because of Bonds! So it is a little harder than that for me!

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #231
              Re: ESPN and Bonds

              Originally posted by joeboo
              How do you know he's off of them?

              The masking agents that companies like BALCO make are pretty good. Not to mention that if he was in fact taking HGH, it's STILL not tested for and never will be tested for (unless they have a blood test).

              Remember that this urine test is very weak. It should be easy to pass for most higher profile guys - which is what makes Palmiero and the steroid he took so unbelievable. It was such a low level steroid that's been detectable for years. I wonder if his masking agent didn't work or became detectable.


              EDIT - For what it's worth, if any Pirate was found of being on steroids, I'd instantely dislike him. Just the way I am. Guys that do that don't deserve my respect.
              I have a hard time believing he would be still on them with all this investigation going on!

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              • TheMatrix31
                RF
                • Jul 2002
                • 52926

                #232
                Re: Vin Scully doesn't want to call 756

                Well it sort of has to do with Vin Scully saying he wont celebrate it. I dont think thats right, whatever.

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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #233
                  Re: ESPN and Bonds

                  Originally posted by BGarrett7
                  I had no problem not rooting for Kenny Lofton, Gary Sheffield, Dan Kolb, and a host of other Braves through the years. I'm already very well aware of what it's like to hate a player on my team.
                  Lets say Sheff hit the game winning world series HR. You wouldn't be celebrating that the Braves won the world series. I have a hard time believing that!

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                  • mjb2124
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 13649

                    #234
                    Re: ESPN and Bonds

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    I have a hard time believing he would be still on them with all this investigation going on!
                    Why not? If he's taking a higher level 'roid like HGH, it's completely undetectable under MLB's steroid policy. He won't get caught.

                    It's another problem with MLB's weak testing policy. The only true test would be a blood test, but the player's union will never agree to that.

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                    • Scottdau
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 32580

                      #235
                      Re: ESPN and Bonds

                      Originally posted by joeboo
                      Why not? If he's taking a higher level 'roid like HGH, it's completely undetectable under MLB's steroid policy. He won't get caught.

                      It's another problem with MLB's weak testing policy. The only true test would be a blood test, but the player's union will never agree to that.
                      I respect you opinion, but he would have to be the biggest dummy ever. If he got caught now he would be banned for life. There is no way he would take that chance!

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                      • mjb2124
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13649

                        #236
                        Re: ESPN and Bonds

                        Originally posted by Scottd
                        I respect you opinion, but he would have to be the biggest dummy ever. If he got caught now he would be banned for life. There is no way he would take that chance!
                        The thing is, he wouldn't get caught unless someone walked in on him sticking a needle in his butt/stomach. I can only assume Barry is smart enough to do this in cycles in the privacy of his own home where no one could find out. He knows the testing policy can't catch him.

                        I've known a handful of people who have used and have quit. My sample size is quite small (3-4) so I'm no expert by any means. When these guys quit, they got chunkier. Not much smaller, but they were no longer as defined as they had been.

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                        • Scottdau
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 32580

                          #237
                          Re: ESPN and Bonds

                          Originally posted by joeboo
                          The thing is, he wouldn't get caught unless someone walked in on him sticking a needle in his butt/stomach. I can only assume Barry is smart enough to do this in cycles in the privacy of his own home where no one could find out. He knows the testing policy can't catch him.

                          I've known a handful of people who have used and have quit. My sample size is quite small (3-4) so I'm no expert by any means. When these guys quit, they got chunkier. Not much smaller, but they were no longer as defined as they had been.
                          Most of my friends got smaller. I took No2 and Ce2 and when I stop I got smaller. But risks would be to high for Bonds. Especially if someone tells on him for fame and glory! If that got out he would be finish! So I don't believe he is on them!

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                          • keRplunK
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 4080

                            #238
                            Re: Bonds on Bonds......

                            This is a great show.

                            Bonds is hilarious.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #239
                              Re: ESPN and Bonds

                              It is all good, Giants fans are going to stick up for this guy and non Giants fans are going to thrash on him. And I don't care what anybody says if your stud player was busted, you would feel different. It is always easy to say what you would do. But just think of your favorite player! And how you would treat him. If you say you would trash him, well that I believe you

                              The truth is we were raised in the steroid era! I don't like it, but it is the truth!

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                              • mjb2124
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13649

                                #240
                                Re: ESPN and Bonds

                                Originally posted by Scottd
                                Most of my friends got smaller. I took No2 and Ce2 and when I stop I got smaller. But risks would be to high for Bonds. Especially if someone tells on him for fame and glory! If that got out he would be finish! So I don't believe he is on them!
                                His ego might not allow that. He might need them to still be the player he wants to be. Afterall, he is getting up there in age.

                                Plus if someone tells on him, it's no worse than what he's dealing with now. It's his word against there's. There's no proof for either side. It's really impossible to get caught and have proof of it unless baseball implements a blood test and forces Barry to take that test. Of course, Hell would freeze over before that happened.

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