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  • Scottdau
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    • Feb 2003
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    #556
    Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    Those days are long dead. I remember them. When I was in HS, and my Freshman year of college when I played baseball, it was a constant battle between my baseball and football coaches. Football wanted me in the weight room, and baseball didn't.

    However, as I said with the way sports specific workouts have advanced, not to mention major advances in physiology, nutritional science, and chemistry those days are long gone.

    yeah it was the same way for me. I played both and the coaches said the same thing. But with the way the game has change I can see the thinking might not be like that anymore. I know this when I got stronger and bigger from working out I lost my swing, now I am no pro, but I play college ball for San Jose St. And had scouts come lol. But maybe it is different. So you made me think BK!

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    • Scottdau
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      • Feb 2003
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      #557
      Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

      Originally posted by BGarrett7
      You know what also hurt Bobby Estalella? The fact that he sucked.
      Well have made the major! When he first came up he wasn't that big.

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      • bkrich83
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        #558
        Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

        Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
        Is it true that too much bodybuilding can make you lose your bat speed?
        Bodybuilding? Yes I agree that bodybuilding in the traditional sense is bad for baseball players. But we're not talking about body building. We're talking about specific programs, that build specific muscle groups, along with nutrition, plyometrics and all that crap that keep flexibility and quick muscle reflex at an optimum. WBear with my poor verbiage on the subject, my brother is the one with a masters in physiology not me, and he explains it better than I.
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        • bkrich83
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          #559
          Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

          Originally posted by Scottd
          I am saying in general, but we had one on the Giants, Bobby E. He was hugh and strong and that didn't help his game. What I am saying is player that get to big lose their swing, but that is all I have ever been taught, so it could be wrong today. When I say 50/50 I am saying it is a gamble, some might get better and some might not. I know if we look at all the player that did take them, they got good, but they were already good, so I can see you point. I just have been taught that, so that is why I believe what I believe!
          But he was never a very good hitter to begin with. He's a poor example. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever being small. So to say bulking up hurt him is a stretch. I sure hope that's not the best example you have.
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          • Stu
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            • Jun 2004
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            #560
            Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Bodybuilding? Yes I agree that bodybuilding in the traditional sense is bad for baseball players. But we're not talking about body building. We're talking about specific programs, that build specific muscle groups, along with nutrition, plyometrics and all that crap that keep flexibility and quick muscle reflex at an optimum. WBear with my poor verbiage on the subject, my brother is the one with a masters in physiology not me, and he explains it better than I.
            I think a good example of what you're talking about is a guy like Tiger Woods. He's not "big" but he works out a lot in a program that is specifically tailored for his sport.
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            • Scottdau
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              • Feb 2003
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              #561
              Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

              Originally posted by bkrich83
              Bodybuilding? Yes I agree that bodybuilding in the traditional sense is bad for baseball players. But we're not talking about body building. We're talking about specific programs, that build specific muscle groups, along with nutrition, plyometrics and all that crap that keep flexibility and quick muscle reflex at an optimum. WBear with my poor verbiage on the subject, my brother is the one with a masters in physiology not me, and he explains it better than I.
              Well I can accept that, but that is not what you guys were saying lol. But I still feel like that can effect your swing, that is why I call it 50/50 you can lose or you can win. Maybe I just didn't get what you were saying! lol

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              • Scottdau
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                • Feb 2003
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                #562
                Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                Originally posted by bkrich83
                But he was never a very good hitter to begin with. He's a poor example. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever being small. So to say bulking up hurt him is a stretch. I sure hope that's not the best example you have.
                Ok, you got me! lol. But I still feel like it is gamble, but that is just experience I have gone through!

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                • bkrich83
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                  #563
                  Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                  Originally posted by camulos
                  I think a good example of what you're talking about is a guy like Tiger Woods. He's not "big" but he works out a lot in a program that is specifically tailored for his sport.
                  Excellent example. You don't have to look any further than Brett Boone. I don't know whether he took steroids or not, although I have my suspicions. But he hit the gym hard, got a lot stronger and went from a journeyman 2nd baseman with a good glove to an all star.
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                  • BGarrett7
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #564
                    Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                    Originally posted by Scottd
                    Ok, you got me! lol. But I still feel like it is gamble, but that is just experience I have gone through!
                    But, again, how does your own personal experience compare to that of a major leaguer?

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                    • Scottdau
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #565
                      Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      You never did say how you came up with the 50/50 number nor who the major leaguers who have suffered from performance enhancing drugs are.
                      I think you guys misunderstood me. I am saying 50/50 of players. I am saying some can get better and some might not, that is what I am saying it is a 50/50 gamble. At least it was in my playing days, maybe it change!

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                      • BGarrett7
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #566
                        Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                        Originally posted by Scottd
                        At least it was in my playing days, maybe it change!
                        Ever make it to the Show? If not, how you and your teammates relate has no relevance on this whatsoever.

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                        • Scottdau
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                          #567
                          Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                          Originally posted by BGarrett7
                          But, again, how does your own personal experience compare to that of a major leaguer?
                          I have friends that played in the majors and have talk to coaches that have too, And I have been taught getting bigger is not the thing you want to do to get better hitting a baseball. But or experiences is what we base anything on.

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                          • SPTO
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                            • Feb 2003
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                            #568
                            Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                            I was listening to the radio today and SNET and the FAN's legal analyst Rob Becker was on. It looks like the case against Bonds is legit and there's a very good case against him.

                            Now the host of the show had a bit of a conspiracy theory as to why Bonds is going to get indicted on perjury charges. He basically thinks that Selig's friends made some phone calls and got the legal eagles out there to put Bonds in jail.

                            It's interesting tho, the Grand Jury has only been looking at perjury charges for the last month which is about the same time the book came out. It's also interesting to note that the book lays things out so well that the prosecutors can call ppl to the stand that were quoted in said book.

                            It's going to be VEEEERY interesting to see how this all comes down.
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                            • BGarrett7
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                              #569
                              Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                              Originally posted by Scottd
                              I have friends that played in the majors and have talk to coaches that have too, And I have been taught getting bigger is not the thing you want to do to get better hitting a baseball. But or experiences is what we base anything on.
                              Care to drop some names then?

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                              • Scottdau
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #570
                                Re: Official Barry Bonds Thread

                                Originally posted by BGarrett7
                                Ever make it to the Show? If not, how you and your teammates relate has no relevance on this whatsoever.
                                I hear what you are saying! But in away the rules still apply in college as it does in pro. And we were encouraged to not get bigger, but than again this was a while ago, so maybe it change!

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