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Originally posted by BGarrett7Who says that Cams was getting Grade-A stuff? If I recall correctly, everything he was taking was acquired in those "drugstores" in Mexico where a lot of amateurs in SoCal acquire their's. I hardly doubt that what he was taking during his MVP run was of the quality and had the testing put into it that Barry's BALCO supply did. We are talking very scientific stuff that he was on here, not just random bought from the trunk of some guy's car stuff that a lot of amateur lifters and high school athletes take.
If that is the case about Balco then why are they illegal if they are not dangerous! The truth is you will pay a cost, and more time then not that cost comes faster. That is all I am saying!Comment
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Originally posted by ScottdThat has nothing to do with Bonds, I am saying it is wrong to say roids prolong your career.
Omar V is in his 38's and he had over 20 SB, so yeah I think Bonds could have about 25 to 30. If he was still in his early playing shape and had no injuries!Comment
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Originally posted by ScottdIf that is the case about Balco then why are they illegal if they are not dangerous! The truth is you will pay a cost, and more time then not that cost comes faster. That is all I am saying!Comment
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Originally posted by camulosAll your doing is twisting the argument as BK and BGarret refute your points one by one. I love how Giants fans like to use anybody else they can find as an example why steroids really didn't help Bonds play baseball, or to say that he's not the only one who took him. This thread is pure comedy.
Bottomline, Barry was in my mind an all-timer and could have been remembered as one.
Instead he decided he was bigger than the game, pissed on the integrity of baseball, pissed on his own legacy, and now will be remembered as a cheater. And rightfully so.Comment
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Originally posted by bkrich83What Cammy took in 96 was a whole different generation of enahancement than what Bonds had access to at Balco. There is no doubt in my mind it allowed him to put up numbers he wouldn't have come close to approaching at ages 36, 37, 38, 39. To think he would have continued to be a 40/30 guy at these ages without him, is beyond drinking the kool-aideComment
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Originally posted by camulosAll your doing is twisting the argument as BK and BGarret refute your points one by one. I love how Giants fans like to use anybody else they can find as an example why steroids really didn't help Bonds play baseball, or to say that he's not the only one who took him. This thread is pure comedy.Comment
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Originally posted by ScottdWell we just see it different. I will say this roids do not prolong your career. But I still feel that he could have put of some solid numbers. Maybe not 40/30, so you got me there, but to say it is the roids alone I don't agree it is the many factors why Bonds has done what he has been able to do. You don't got get big and strong taking roids, you need to workout and keep in shape too. So I just don't see how roids alone help his career or prolong it when in fact in has cause him more injuries then anything, especially now. But you have some good points, and it has made me think!Comment
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Originally posted by ScottdThis has nothing to do with Bonds, I am talking about roids do not prolong your career, that is all I am saying, if you can't get that well, oh well. I can care less about Bonds, Sure I am Giants fan, but he is the biggest jerk I have ever met, so think what you want, but if roids prolong careers their would be a lot more older athletes!
However, what we're seeing now is the consequence of prolonged steroids use. They helped him recover quickly over the years, but eventually they do start to make your body break down.Comment
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Originally posted by bkrich83Exactly.
Bottomline, Barry was in my mind an all-timer and could have been remembered as one.
Instead he decided he was bigger than the game, pissed on the integrity of baseball, pissed on his own legacy, and now will be remembered as a cheater. And rightfully so.Comment
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I would argue that steroids do prolong your career... Maybe not in Barry's case, but I'm sure it helped him.
Barry with a pulled hamstring at the age of 40 and on steroids would recuperate much better than if he wasn't on the juice.“Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on SheffieldComment
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Originally posted by ScottdI will say this roids do not prolong your career.
Originally posted by ScottdBut I still feel that he could have put of some solid numbers. Maybe not 40/30, so you got me there, but to say it is the roids alone I don't agree it is the many factors why Bonds has done what he has been able to do.
Originally posted by ScottdYou don't got get big and strong taking roids, you need to workout and keep in shape too.
Originally posted by ScottdSo I just don't see how roids alone help his career or prolong it when in fact in has cause him more injuries then anything, especially now. But you have some good points, and it has made me think!Comment
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Originally posted by camulosIt's not one or the other, which is the point you're failing to see. As I said in my post above, steroids allowed him to play at a higher level at an age where most athletes start to decline. They enabled him to recover quicker from injuries, but most importantly from the every day grind.
However, what we're seeing now is the consequence of prolonged steroids use. They helped him recover quickly over the years, but eventually they do start to make your body break down.Comment
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Originally posted by Scottd. But Bonds was special, so you never know.Comment
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