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  • poster
    All Star
    • Nov 2003
    • 7506

    #46
    Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

    Originally posted by USF11
    I dont see any scenrio where the Cubs trade a healthy starting pitcher. Maybe the Cubs offer A-Ram Pie and Prior.
    I agree. It makes no sense. Pinella says the reports are bogus so at this point who cares. I don't favor a move for him anyways.

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    • chippered
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 1528

      #47
      Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

      With the cubs pitching situation, I cant see any deal involving Big Z. The cubs need pitching more than hitting at this point.

      After watching the press conference i'm cautiously optimistic about 2007. I'm not talking World Series or even playoffs, but it would be nice to see a team that tried and stuff like that. There are a couple of guys we need to get rid of IMO and a couple we could pick up. Looks like the Trib is going to cough up some of the money they've been hording from the fans that continue to support losing teams all these years. If the moneys spent well, things could be promising.
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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #48
        Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

        Originally posted by USF11
        Arod is good, expect the yanks to get near equal value in return.
        I edited your post because the other words and letters in it made it ridiculous.
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        • Gagnon39
          Windy City Sports Fan
          • Mar 2003
          • 8544

          #49
          Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

          Originally posted by rubisco43
          So you're done with Prior? I can understand with Woods. But Prior is still young and all that potential is so hard to give up on.
          Absolutely, positively, yes. Without question. Prior sucks. He's injury prone and his stuff isn't even that good anymore. He's an average pitcher and had one good season and that's it. All it takes is one good season in the Cubs organization and a player can become so overrated. Zambrano is the ace. Other than that we don't have any pitching. Prior would make a good 4th or 5th starter but that's about it. Call me crazy but Prior's done.

          The irony is that if he goes somewhere else he'll get comeback player of the year. If we traded him to the Yankees he's win 18 games and have 230 strikeouts.
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          • poster
            All Star
            • Nov 2003
            • 7506

            #50
            Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

            Originally posted by Gagnon39
            Absolutely, positively, yes. Without question. Prior sucks. He's injury prone and his stuff isn't even that good anymore. He's an average pitcher and had one good season and that's it. All it takes is one good season in the Cubs organization and a player can become so overrated. Zambrano is the ace. Other than that we don't have any pitching. Prior would make a good 4th or 5th starter but that's about it. Call me crazy but Prior's done.

            The irony is that if he goes somewhere else he'll get comeback player of the year. If we traded him to the Yankees he's win 18 games and have 230 strikeouts.
            Ha ha, he just got his shoulder looked at again by Dr. James Andrews. He has looseness in his shoulder. Quick trade him for ARod.

            I don't know man. Maybe it will take one more year, but I just can't give up on him yet, no matter how much grief he has caused me the last couple of years.

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            • TheMatrix31
              RF
              • Jul 2002
              • 52926

              #51
              Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

              The best deal the Yankees would be able to get for him is Prior (who I've always imagined in a Yankee uniform anyway), Aramis Ramirez, and a prospect or two.

              I'd do that in a HEARTBEAT if I was Brian Cashman, which I'm not, so it doesn't matter what I think.

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              • USF11
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                • Jun 2003
                • 4245

                #52
                Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                I edited your post because the other words and letters in it made it ridiculous.
                ROFL, If you think A-Rod is a that great, then there is no way possible for the yankees to get equal value for him.

                Maybe you want Pujols for him, or maybe Johan Santana,
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                • dooch
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 609

                  #53
                  Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                  Originally posted by teebone
                  Actually Zambrano has more value than ARod since starting pitching is kind of important and because both teams know this, Cashman would be a fool to think he could get Zambrano (and Hendry would be a fool to trade him). If the Yankees want Zambrano they should be giving up another pitcher. Like I said, Aramis, a young pitcher and a reliever is actually a fair trade.
                  I wholeheartedly disagree. IMO, that is not a fair trade. You're talking about a guy who many believe is the best player in the game, and in an 'off' year, hit 35 bombs and drove in 120 runs with an OBP around .390. You're not going to get a guy like that unless you give up quality and someone who is a sure thing, which Zambrano is and Prior is not. As for A-Ram, why would he be included when he can become a free agent anyways, and probably will unless the Cubs break the bank for him?

                  If you could guarantee that Prior would be healthy for the most part, a package of Prior, Hill, Pie and a reliever would be equitable. You're not going to get A-Rod by giving up spare parts.

                  Actually, I was talking to a buddy of mine and said Zambrano and a reliever and maybe a prospect for A-Rod and Pavano (with the Yanks paying some of his salary). The Cubs get a serviceable pitcher in Pavano who will be back in the NL to help replace Zambrano.

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                  • dmoore
                    Rookie
                    • May 2003
                    • 129

                    #54
                    Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                    Really, the only reason I could see getting A-Rod would be for him to play SS, and I don't even know if he can still do that. I'm prefectly happy with A-Ram, who IMO, had a better year than A-Rod. Even if we have to re-sign A-Ram, I'm sure it won't cost us nearly as much as A-Rod's deal. No way does Zambrano go in any deal, and if yanks fans think they could get him plus a prospect for A-Rod, they're delusional.

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                    • roadman
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 26339

                      #55
                      Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                      A-Rod may prove to be a seasonal hitter, but doesn't show up during the playoffs. You don't think teams are going to mention that if they want to trade for him? Who's more valuable or clutch on the Yanks, A-Rod or Jeter? If you answer Jeter, then A-Rod isn't the best player in the league or MVP on the Yanks

                      He's at the peak of his career at this stage. He may stay at that peak for 2-3 more years, then , may decline.(just a guess)

                      The Cubs won't trade their staff ace for A-Rod. The Cubs can go after Lee and some more pitching.

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                      • Gagnon39
                        Windy City Sports Fan
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 8544

                        #56
                        Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                        Originally posted by poster
                        Ha ha, he just got his shoulder looked at again by Dr. James Andrews. He has looseness in his shoulder. Quick trade him for ARod.

                        I don't know man. Maybe it will take one more year, but I just can't give up on him yet, no matter how much grief he has caused me the last couple of years.
                        Well, you'll be done with him by the end of next season when he goes 3-7 in 12 starts all year long.
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                        • Porschebenz2001
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 3628

                          #57
                          Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                          The best deal the Yankees would be able to get for him is Prior (who I've always imagined in a Yankee uniform anyway), Aramis Ramirez, and a prospect or two.

                          I'd do that in a HEARTBEAT if I was Brian Cashman, which I'm not, so it doesn't matter what I think.
                          Please no. We have enough injury prone starters. I doubt they'd ever trade for Prior.
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #58
                            Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                            I'll shoot myself if we get Wood or Prior.
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                            • e0820
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2070

                              #59
                              Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                              Doesnt matter who the Cubs get. Fact is Pinella has rehired the pitching coach and lets face it - pitching has sucked and Larry Rothschild has blown out two young talented arms in Wood and Prior. Great move Pinella, I hope you enjoy padding your career win loss record with alot more losses!

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                              • e0820
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2070

                                #60
                                Re: A-Rod to Cubs?

                                Originally posted by ehh
                                I'll shoot myself if we get Wood or Prior.
                                I hope they do get traded, it would be the best thing for their careers

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