Top 25 Players in the MLB

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Top 25 Players in the MLB

1. Albert Pujols (Consensus Pick)
2. Ryan Howard
3. David Ortiz
4. Johan Santana
5. Alfonso Soriano
6. Travis Hafner
7. Manny Ramirez
8. Roy Halladay
9. Chris Carpenter
10. Alex Rodriguez
11. Justin Morneau
12. Miguel Cabrera
13. Pedro Martinez
14. Chase Utley
15. Jose Reyes
16. Carl Crawford
17. Roy Oswalt
18. Vernon Wells
19. Andruw Jones
20. Derek Jeter
21. Jason Bay
22. Vladimir Guerrero
23. David Wright
24. Lance Berkman
25. Ichiro

26. Grady Sizemore
27. Mariano Rivera
28. Brandon Webb
29. Joe Mauer
30. Trevor Hoffman

Jake Peavy should not be in the top 25. He needs to put together a nice record, rank among top 10 for starters in WHIP, K's, and ERA all in the SAME season.

[X*Cell]

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How did you have Carpenter ahead of Santana, xcell? Just wondering what your thoughts are on that. IMO, no pitcher comes close to Santana.

I agree that Santana is the cat's meow, but after the last 2 seasons that Carpenter had, if I had to choose between these two players, I couldn't pass up on Chris.

Miguel Cabrera should be on all of the lists also.

He just missed my list (#27). As did Dontrelle Willis (#29).

[cjonesfan921]

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I agree that Santana is the cat's meow, but after the last 2 seasons that Carpenter had, if I had to choose between these two players, I couldn't pass up on Chris.



He just missed my list (#27). As did Dontrelle Willis (#29).

Carpenter had 2 great seasons, Santana has 2 even better seasons. Also, let's not forget Santana pitches in the AL which is obviously a bit harder. IMO, Santana is #1 on any Top 25, with both position players and pitchers. He is THAT GOOD.

[X*Cell]

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Carpenter had 2 great seasons, Santana has 2 even better seasons. Also, let's not forget Santana pitches in the AL which is obviously a bit harder. IMO, Santana is #1 on any Top 25, with both position players and pitchers. He is THAT GOOD.

Better than Pujols? I don't know about that.

The AL appears to be harder, but we can't say anything now since the NL just claimed the world series. After seeing Pujols amazing diving play also, it just further annoints him as the greatest in the game today. So many players are great hitters but so-so fielders... not Pujols!

Santana is better than Carpenter, but I don't know. In those big games, you could count on Chris to get the job done. Santana lossed a couple big games this season.

[mjb2124]

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You gotta have Jason Bay on any top 25 list.

[dkgojackets]

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I still don't get why there is no love for Cabrera in these lists. A guy that's 23, had a .339 AVG and .430 OBP last year, three straight 100 RBI seasons in a huge pitchers park with weak support, fifth youngest to have 100 in a season (Kaline, Ted Williams, Ott, Cobb), top 5 VORP, and plays a real position.

Every actual baseball site/forum I've been has threads on whether you would want him or Pujols if you had first pick in an entire redraft.

[dkgojackets]

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You gotta have Jason Bay on any top 25 list.

Yeah, he should be up there somewhere too.

[skitch]

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Miguel Cabrera should be in everyone's top 5 if not top 3.

Miguel's a great player, nobody's disputing that... but I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

[Gibbz]

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I'm not seeing many Jason Bay or Michael Young entries. That's a shame.

[X*Cell]

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I'm not seeing many Jason Bay or Michael Young entries. That's a shame.

Jason Bay just missed my list as well ... #28 he would have been... Michael Young ... he'd be around the 40's if I did that many. He's a good hitter, but in my mind, he's nothing that special yet.

[dkgojackets]

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Miguel's a great player, nobody's disputing that... but I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

"At this point in time, who would I rather have on my roster?"

Isn't that the question we're answering? Its kinda tough making a flat out top 25 list due to positions and such, but seeing Frank Thomas on one of these lists is just laughable. A lot of 1B/DH put up big numbers, but that doesn't make them a better or more valuable player at all then say a 2B who can get you 25 HR and 100 RBI.

Im making this list as if it were a 25 man roster.

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Alex Rodriguez
3B - Miguel Cabrera
LF - Manny Ramirez
CF - Carlos Beltran
RF - Vladimir Guerrero

SP - Johan Santana
SP - Roy Oswalt
SP - Roy Halladay
SP - Francisco Liriano
SP - Chris Carpenter

C - Brian McCann
IF - Ryan Howard
IF - Jose Reyes
IF - Derek Jeter
OF - Grady Sizemore
OF - Jason Bay

P - Brandon Webb
RP - Joel Zumaya
RP - B.J. Ryan
RP - Jonathan Papelbon
RP - Joe Nathan
CP - Mariano Rivera

[Pujols91]

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1. Johan Santana
2. Albert Pujols
3. Travis Hafner
4. David Ortiz
5. Chris Carpenter
6. Roy Halladay
7. Alfonso Soriano
8. Derek Jeter
9. Mariano Rivera
10. Vladimir Guerrero
11. Alex Rodriguez
12. Miguel Cabrera
13. Carlos Beltran
14. Carlos Zambrano
15. Jose Reyes
16. Carlos Beltran
17. Pedro Martinez
18. Dontrelle Willis
19. Carl Crawford
20. Manny Ramirez
21. David Wright
22. Joe Mauer
23. Justin Morneau
24. Scott Kazmir
25. Andruw Jones

Not enough spots, lol.

[skitch]

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"At this point in time, who would I rather have on my roster?"

Isn't that the question we're answering? Its kinda tough making a flat out top 25 list due to positions and such, but seeing Frank Thomas on one of these lists is just laughable. A lot of 1B/DH put up big numbers, but that doesn't make them a better or more valuable player at all then say a 2B who can get you 25 HR and 100 RBI.

Im making this list as if it were a 25 man roster.

C - Joe Mauer
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Chase Utley
SS - Alex Rodriguez
3B - Miguel Cabrera
LF - Manny Ramirez
CF - Carlos Beltran
RF - Vladimir Guerrero

SP - Johan Santana
SP - Roy Oswalt
SP - Roy Halladay
SP - Francisco Liriano
SP - Chris Carpenter

C - Brian McCann
IF - Ryan Howard
IF - Jose Reyes
IF - Derek Jeter
OF - Grady Sizemore
OF - Jason Bay

P - Brandon Webb
RP - Joel Zumaya
RP - B.J. Ryan
RP - Jonathan Papelbon
RP - Joe Nathan
CP - Mariano Rivera

I gotcha. I wasn't necessarily under the impression that you had to have one person at every position, or even be making a roster. I just thought we were ranking people as "best available". For example, if you were ranking these players to be drafted, how would the standings go, regardless of position.

[BearcatsFan]

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You gotta have Jason Bay on any top 25 list.

I forgot about Bay. Although, I don't think he would be in my Top 25, maybe somewhere 30-35. He has talent and potential, but isn't on the superstar plateau quite yet. I really like him though, a couple years ago I watched him a lot when he played for the Portland Beavers, which is the Padres AAA club, met him a couple times, and I root for him to do good. So far, he has had a consistent career.

[BatsareBugs]

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Jason Bay deserves huge considerations as a top 25 player:

He's only missed 3 games the past two years, he's put up consecutive 100 rbi's and 30 home run seasons and he is still improving.