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  • ViperVisor
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    • Jul 2002
    • 315

    #1

    What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

    <font color="red"> Striking out 150 times is 50 innings of K's ! </font>

    On Around the Horn they say he is !
  • GCrusher23
    MVP
    • Dec 2002
    • 1170

    #2
    Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

    The question on the show was who is the better lead off hitter. Obviously it's Ichiro because he can't hit home runs, has speed, and has a high obp. Soriano hits home runs and strikes out. Sounds like the usual five hole hitter.

    so to answer the question from Around the Horn, Ichiro is the better leadoff hitter. Who is the better player? Soriano by far. He's younger and is a mirror image of Barry Bonds.

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    • GCrusher23
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 1170

      #3
      Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

      The question on the show was who is the better lead off hitter. Obviously it's Ichiro because he can't hit home runs, has speed, and has a high obp. Soriano hits home runs and strikes out. Sounds like the usual five hole hitter.

      so to answer the question from Around the Horn, Ichiro is the better leadoff hitter. Who is the better player? Soriano by far. He's younger and is a mirror image of Barry Bonds.

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      • ViperVisor
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 315

        #4
        Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

        he is not a better anything come on.

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        • ViperVisor
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          • Jul 2002
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          #5
          Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

          he is not a better anything come on.

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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #6
            Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

            strike outs are overrated.

            Ichiro is overrated.

            Soriano is overrated.
            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #7
              Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

              strike outs are overrated.

              Ichiro is overrated.

              Soriano is overrated.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • cake612
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                • Jul 2002
                • 677

                #8
                Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                Sorianos OPS was almost 70 points higher than Ichiro. As a leadoff hitter it's obviousley ichiro, but as an all around player it's obvioulsey soriano.

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                • cake612
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 677

                  #9
                  Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                  Sorianos OPS was almost 70 points higher than Ichiro. As a leadoff hitter it's obviousley ichiro, but as an all around player it's obvioulsey soriano.

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                  • ViperVisor
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 315

                    #10
                    Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                    back up your staements with #'s please

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                    • ViperVisor
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 315

                      #11
                      Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                      back up your staements with #'s please

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                      • silver540i
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 975

                        #12
                        Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                        Hold on guys-

                        Essentially, you pit Soriano's best year (only year) against Ichiros 2 seasons, and its unfair. Ichiro may have overachieved that first year, but its hard to tell. Soriano FOR SURE overachieved. Lets wait 3-4 more months and have this converstaion again.

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                        • silver540i
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 975

                          #13
                          Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                          Hold on guys-

                          Essentially, you pit Soriano's best year (only year) against Ichiros 2 seasons, and its unfair. Ichiro may have overachieved that first year, but its hard to tell. Soriano FOR SURE overachieved. Lets wait 3-4 more months and have this converstaion again.

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                          • silver540i
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                            G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
                            Alfonso Soriano NYY 156 696 128 209 51 2 39 102 23 157 41 13 .300 .332 .547 0.880
                            Ichiro Suzuki SEA 157 647 111 208 27 8 8 51 68 62 31 15 .321 .388 .425 0.813

                            Based on this year, its close to a wash. Both players have similar stats except in RBIs and HRs, and Strikeouts. I would give the edge to Soriano for having a Great (overachieved) season, but if you consider what Ichiro did last year, I think Ichiro is still the better player...but not by much. Depends on what stat you personally think is important.

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                            • silver540i
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 975

                              #15
                              Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                              G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
                              Alfonso Soriano NYY 156 696 128 209 51 2 39 102 23 157 41 13 .300 .332 .547 0.880
                              Ichiro Suzuki SEA 157 647 111 208 27 8 8 51 68 62 31 15 .321 .388 .425 0.813

                              Based on this year, its close to a wash. Both players have similar stats except in RBIs and HRs, and Strikeouts. I would give the edge to Soriano for having a Great (overachieved) season, but if you consider what Ichiro did last year, I think Ichiro is still the better player...but not by much. Depends on what stat you personally think is important.

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