Have a feeling.....Yankees

[elTodd]

Re: Have a feeling.....Yankees

I just love how almost everyone in the sports world, were counting the Yanks out, in May.

Just goes to show, that you can't count anyone out in baseball. At least not that early.

[Beantown]

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How amazing would it be if Boston not only lost the East, but the WC as well.

Not very amazing at all.

Wouldn't surprise me, though.

And all of the other Sox fans on this board jumped on me when I said the Yankees would win the division. Same.

[ILLCHILL]

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They still havent won the f'in division! Holy cow, 4 out is still four out. Granted a week from now the Yankees could be in 1st, but they could also be nine games out a week from now. Things are looking good for them, things were looking good for us early on. Streaks can be stopped on a dime. I'm not saying the Sox are still a lock, but spare me the pre-mature Yanks division dance.

[soltrain]

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They still havent won the f'in division! Holy cow, 4 out is still four out. Granted a week from now the Yankees could be in 1st, but they could also be nine games out a week from now. Things are looking good for them, things were looking good for us early on. Streaks can be stopped on a dime. I'm not saying the Sox are still a lock, but spare me the pre-mature Yanks division dance.

They were completely left for dead. You have to give them SOME credit that they are making this interesting, at least.

[ILLCHILL]

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Oh I am giving them all the credit in the world for making it tight again, but if the roles were reversed it would be people saying the Yankees, despite losing ground, still have a good chgance at holding onto the 4 game lead. But since it's the unfortunate BoSox, they are as good as dead.

[djep]

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Oh I am giving them all the credit in the world for making it tight again, but if the roles were reversed it would be people saying the Yankees, despite losing ground, still have a good chgance at holding onto the 4 game lead. But since it's the unfortunate BoSox, they are as good as dead.

Well, going 35-32 during a stretch where your closest competitor has gone 45-21 has something to do with it too. Even though the Yanks are 4 games back, I wouldn't switch positions with the Red Sox right now if given a chance.

[ehh]

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I'm pretty sure the turning point of the Yanks season was when Cano, Melky and Abreu stopped going out til 4am six nights a week and started hitting.

[Gary Armida]

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Wow. Bravo on the sports talk radio-esque "hearing footsteps" line. That's a throw away.

I also love how you refuse to take into account who the Yankees have played over the last month. Amazing. Yes, the schedule evens out over the season... but that's a different discussion entirely and completely ignores my point that they've been facing the league's worst teams. IMO the next few weeks will be much more telling for the Yankees than what they've done since the AS break since the schedule really toughens up. If you're going to look at how well or poorly a team is playing then it makes sense to look at who they've been playing. Here's a hint: it's harder to win against good teams and easier to win against bad teams. I don't think I would call TB, CHI, or KC very good. It's not like I'm making this up on the fly either, a lot of analysts were talking about this during the AS break as the Yankees best bet to make up a lot of ground. I still can't believe you don't think strength of opponents faced matters. Really amazing.

That isn't to say that the Yankees offense hasn't been great, it has and will continue to be to some degree because it has a ton of talent (actually, much much much much better names than Duncan and Betemit - wow btw, wow), but there's probably going to be a correction soon. They're good and all but they've been '27 Yankees good for a while now and, well, they just aren't the greatest offense in league history. Sorry. As for the pitching staff... it's been a constant. Check the numbers.

FWIW, I can't really stand most of the fans of either team. I love the sport and I love the way it can be broken down and analyzed but I don't particularly care for mindless the grandstanding.

Hey man, I don't know what the problem is here. I am having some fun with a freaking prediction made when they were 15 games out that still has not come true. We can't have a light-hearted discussion? Quite frankly, your tone in your post is not necessary. We're talking baseball here, not world peace. Sorry I insulted you with the footsteps thing...nice dismissal. Mindless grandstanding?!? Are you serious? Please take your personal attacks elsewhere.

Now, I disagree with you for these reasons:

Point one--The schedule..
Yankee Win Breakdown
Opponent
Split W L RS RA WP
ARI 3 0 18 4 1.000
BAL 3 6 45 50 .333
BOS 5 7 66 73 .417
CHW 6 4 71 40 .600
CLE 6 0 49 17 1.000
COL 0 3 5 13 .000
KCR 6 1 56 28 .857
LAA 2 4 37 28 .333
MIN 5 2 41 21 .714
NYM 3 3 34 27 .500
OAK 2 4 19 32 .333
PIT 3 0 27 13 1.000
SEA 3 4 34 26 .429
SFG 1 2 14 16 .333
TBD 7 5 100 73 .583
TEX 5 1 35 24 .833
TOR 6 5 49 52 .545

Sox Wins Breakdown
Opponent
Split W L RS RA WP
ARI 2 1 15 11 .667
ATL 4 2 38 29 .667
BAL 7 4 62 45 .636
CHW 3 1 31 14 .750
CLE 5 2 34 25 .714
COL 1 2 5 20 .333
DET 3 4 24 29 .429
KCR 3 3 24 24 .500
LAA 4 2 40 23 .667
MIN 2 1 7 5 .667
NYY 7 5 73 66 .583
OAK 2 4 17 19 .333
SDP 2 1 7 9 .667
SEA 4 5 51 44 .444
SFG 3 0 20 7 1.000
TBD 5 1 47 22 .833
TEX 6 4 44 38 .600
TOR 7 5 64 44 .583

Can you tell me a bad team that the Yanks beat up on besides KC and Pit that the Sox didn't? You could say Texas, but the Sox did play .600 ball against them. Like I said, the schedule evens out. Of course an "easy stetch matters" but playing above .600 ball is a feat no matter who the oponent is. You know that.

Point 2--I know they have big names. I was just speaking of bench depth which was a huge issue at the beginning of the season. Betemit and Duncan are much better than Cairo and the piece of naval lint that was there earlier in the year.

Point 3--Pitching staff. I said, if you bothered to read, that they are improved now with the addition of Clemens, Hughes, and Chamberlin. The beginning of the season, you know when they were playing the "almighty teams" they were throwing Chase Wright, Jeff Karstins et. all out there. Forgotten is the fact that Wang missed a month, Mussina missed a couple of weeks, Pettitte had a minor issue. Tell me a team that wouldn't be horrible when you lose 3/5 of your rotation at some point. Injuries are a part of the game, but the fact that they are getting more innings out of the starters is huge and bodes well for the future.

Point 4--If you want to get real "advanced" we can talk about run differential and how even when the Yankees were at their worst, they were producing like a first place team. I'm too lazy to look that all up right now, but it's out there for you.

I don't know man. I am not going to debate you any further, especially if you are going to come at me like that. It's all just fun...Whether or not the Yankees win the East will not make or break my life.

[Kashanova]

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i think u got it wrong the yanks got a winning record against the sox this year

[snepp]

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Can you tell me a bad team that the Yanks beat up on besides KC and Pit that the Sox didn't?

As much as I hate defending the Yankees (and I DO hate the Yankees), the Royals have gone 32-30 since starting the year 19-35. Their recent record would look even better if they hadn't lost 6 of 7 to the Yankees. I guess I'm saying the Royals haven't exactly been a pushover since the end of May.

[Gary Armida]

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i think u got it wrong the yanks got a winning record against the sox this year

That was taken from baseball-reference.com, so it should be right.

[Briman123]

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Well Sox have called up Clay Buchholz, the answer to Yankees Philip Hughes not bad so far, were winning 6-1 over LAA.

[That Swan]

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Well Sox have called up Clay Buchholz, the answer to Yankees Philip Hughes not bad so far, were winning 6-1 over LAA.

Hughes still has the advantage on Bucholz but whats you answer to Joba, a no-existent Gagne right now

[Beantown]

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Hughes still has the advantage on Bucholz but whats you answer to Joba, a no-existent Gagne right now

No, actually, our answer to Joba would be Okajima.

[oakfan162]

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No, actually, our answer to Joba would be Okajima.

Thats a damn good answer IMO.