A-RODS future?

[rsox]

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Yeah thats exactly what i'm saying .

I wonder if all this love for ARod will still be around when opts out of his contract and bolts for Anaheim or San Francisco.

[rsox]

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OK Yankee fans define what makes ARod a winner (and don't just say "because he's the best player in Baseball").
What does Alex Rodriguez bring that makes him a winner?.

[NYJets]

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Best player in baseball, or one of them, is the answer. Having one of the best players in baseball on your team gives your team a better chance to win. Not that complicated.

He brings great power, OBP, defense, speed. And I guess if you want intangible stuff for some reason, he's been incredibly clutch this year.

[Briman123]

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To be honest, I've been on the fence about this for a while. I wanted him a couple of months ago but after he was involved in that controversial play against Toronto it sort of turned me off to the prospects of signing him after the season. Now that it's blown over I'm lightening up to the possibility that he could be playing for Red sox next season. I'd be very surprised if the Yankees don't extend him though. With all the money they've got and the clear decline of a good portion of their line-up I can't see them letting A-Rod slip away, especially to the Red Sox.

[CMH]

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OK Yankee fans define what makes ARod a winner (and don't just say "because he's the best player in Baseball").
What does Alex Rodriguez bring that makes him a winner?.

I can't answer that question because I don't see the sense in it.

To say what makes Alex Rodriguez a winner is saying that someone else is a loser. I don't agree that anyone that plays every night doesn't want to win.

All I know is that Alex Rodriguez provides offensive numbers throughout a whole season that clearly give his team an opportunity to win.

His playoff numbers may not be great but just because he's had a bad postseason means he's not a winner? I feel uncomfortable even saying that because that phrase is ridiculous to me. "Not a winner." I can't even comprehend the basis of that argument.

There are great players that never make it to the World Series and because of that they aren't winners? You are telling me that that makes sense to you? I guess all I ask is that you really think about what you are saying and not just follow the masses that think people who don't perform in certain situations are losers.

Of course, getting you to understand that would also have to result in me getting you to understand that clutch is a matter of opinion and not an ability.

As for ARod Love. I don't love Alex Rodriguez. I just happen to be defending him in this thread. If he goes to Anaheim or wherever I'll still think he's the best player in baseball and I'll defend him then. He gets a lot of bad press for no reason. The guy does something that others have done but it's magnified to the nth degree because it's Alex Rodriguez. I guess that comes with the territory of being the best.


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I should also add, to defend my statements, that I absolutely hate the Jeter has intangibles theory. It's dumb. Jeter's "rah,rah" attitude doesn't make him more a winner than anybody else. His presence doesn't automatically assume victory. I know Joe Morgan rides Jeter's nuts harder than a washed up actress but everyone should know by now that Joe Morgan was a great player...period. What makes Jeter is good is his ability to hit for average, steal bases, and score runs on a team that has power hitters from 1-9. Put Jeter in Detroit and he's Carlos Guillen.

Players play baseball. They don't have extra senses that make them anymore special than the next guy.

[rsox]

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I can't answer that question because I don't see the sense in it.

To say what makes Alex Rodriguez a winner is saying that someone else is a loser. I don't agree that anyone that plays every night doesn't want to win.

All I know is that Alex Rodriguez provides offensive numbers throughout a whole season that clearly give his team an opportunity to win.

His playoff numbers may not be great but just because he's had a bad postseason means he's not a winner? I feel uncomfortable even saying that because that phrase is ridiculous to me. "Not a winner." I can't even comprehend the basis of that argument.

There are great players that never make it to the World Series and because of that they aren't winners? You are telling me that that makes sense to you? I guess all I ask is that you really think about what you are saying and not just follow the masses that think people who don't perform in certain situations are losers.

Of course, getting you to understand that would also have to result in me getting you to understand that clutch is a matter of opinion and not an ability.

As for ARod Love. I don't love Alex Rodriguez. I just happen to be defending him in this thread. If he goes to Anaheim or wherever I'll still think he's the best player in baseball and I'll defend him then. He gets a lot of bad press for no reason. The guy does something that others have done but it's magnified to the nth degree because it's Alex Rodriguez. I guess that comes with the territory of being the best.


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I should also add, to defend my statements, that I absolutely hate the Jeter has intangibles theory. It's dumb. Jeter's "rah,rah" attitude doesn't make him more a winner than anybody else. His presence doesn't automatically assume victory. I know Joe Morgan rides Jeter's nuts harder than a washed up actress but everyone should know by now that Joe Morgan was a great player...period. What makes Jeter is good is his ability to hit for average, steal bases, and score runs on a team that has power hitters from 1-9. Put Jeter in Detroit and he's Carlos Guillen.

Players play baseball. They don't have extra senses that make them anymore special than the next guy.

Fair enough. And i'm not trying to say that he is a loser but for a guy that is trying to command a $30 million dollar a year salary he should have more than just a lot of Home Runs to show for deserving that kind of money.

Lets throw out the labels (winner or loser) and look at the bottem line...ARod has never made any team he has played for better. The spotlight in Seattle was on Griffey not Rodriguez so we won't really count them, the Rangers certainely were not better with ARod and the Yankees have seen their win totals drop in each season with ARod.
Is this all Alex's fault?, of course not. He can't be blammed for all of those teams problems(though you could probably argue his comments about his teammates Texas didn't help any).
That is why i don't get why everyone says he gives a team the best possible chance of winning a championship.

[CMH]

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Fair enough. And i'm not trying to say that he is a loser but for a guy that is trying to command a $30 million dollar a year salary he should have more than just a lot of Home Runs to show for deserving that kind of money.

Lets throw out the labels (winner or loser) and look at the bottem line...ARod has never made any team he has played for better. The spotlight in Seattle was on Griffey not Rodriguez so we won't really count them, the Rangers certainely were not better with ARod and the Yankees have seen their win totals drop in each season with ARod.
Is this all Alex's fault?, of course not. He can't be blammed for all of those teams problems(though you could probably argue his comments about his teammates Texas didn't help any).
That is why i don't get why everyone says he gives a team the best possible chance of winning a championship.

Well, your numbers definitely back up a good percentage of your comments on him. And I won't argue with that.

But, it should be noted that Alex Rodriguez is currently playing for a team that has almost no one performing at his production level. Without his numbers the Yankees are not 4 games over .500.

I'd even argue that Alex Rodriguez helped the Texas Rangers more than he hurt them. They were a bad team regardless of him being on the roster. I'm sure he saved them some losses by winning with his bat. Actually, his RISP and late-inning career numbers would suggest that as well.

He's really only been underperforming in the "clutch" while in pinstripes. Of course, the scale is bigger so it's assumed that he is not a late-game performer. I don't think New York made him that way. As I've said before, it's just the way probability falls on a player. This season proves that.