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  • fugazi
    MVP
    • Apr 2003
    • 3749

    #16
    Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

    Originally posted by richierich
    I'm sorry to ask this but how credible is the New York Daily News? Comparable to NY Times?

    There is not a single credible newspaper in this country.....have you looked at the realities of media ownership?
    Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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    • faster
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 2182

      #17
      Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

      Originally posted by fugazi
      There is not a single credible newspaper in this country.....have you looked at the realities of media ownership?
      The problem is they take anything and run with it. Every little thing becomes magnified or multiplied 1000 times without researching things.. or if they do, they don't truly get valid sources.

      Wanna talk about steroid risks? Talk to a doctor right? Riiiiiight. Because they know... right? Fat chance. They know little more about juice than we do. Their knowledge is text book knowledge that they read 15-20 years ago. How about talking with a doctor that works SPECIFICALLY in that area. How about someone specializing in hormone replacement therapy or an endocrinologist. And as far as what research is out there... gee.... maybe that's old and the stuff that's used today is different or has less sides, or no sides.

      Just because one guy had steak and died from it, don't eliminate steak or freak out. Just because some idiot had 8 shots of red bull because he was a ****** and had a heart attack, that doesn't mean it's the red bull's fault.... it's the idiot's fault.
      "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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      • TarHeelMan
        Th* H*mb*rg*r P*mp
        • Jul 2002
        • 7853

        #18
        Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

        Originally posted by richierich
        I'm sorry to ask this but how credible is the New York Daily News? Comparable to NY Times?
        Pretty credible... Definitely not the NY Post, that's for sure. The News isn't quite at the level of the Times, but a pretty decent newspaper.

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        • Lintyfresh85
          Where have I been?
          • Jul 2002
          • 17492

          #19
          Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

          does it even matter? They said he stopped receiving shipments in 2004. A year before it was even BANNED. Far as I see, that's totally legal.
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          Originally posted by trobinson97
          Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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          • faster
            MVP
            • Dec 2002
            • 2182

            #20
            Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

            Originally posted by Superstar
            does it even matter? They said he stopped receiving shipments in 2004. A year before it was even BANNED. Far as I see, that's totally legal.
            doesn't matter.... but.... to those people that thing he's a cheat now... it might. that's the sad part.
            "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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            • Lintyfresh85
              Where have I been?
              • Jul 2002
              • 17492

              #21
              Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

              hopefully he'll come out and said he did it. Then say it was still legal back then, and that he's been clean for 3 years. Admit the mistake... even though its technically not one, and just move on. America will deal.
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              Originally posted by trobinson97
              Hell, I shot my grandmother, cuz she was old.

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #22
                Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                Doesn't that mean he stopped taking shipments but still can have a supply that he uses...? Even if it is sporadically.
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                • pistonpete
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 662

                  #23
                  Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                  ankiel has always been an honest (at times brutally honest) guy, so at some point he will admit that he took hgh. as far as its effect on his performance to date, i would guess that there is none. although, i have to admit that it makes his storied comeback a bit tainted.

                  pete

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                  • CoRruPt-
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1279

                    #24
                    Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                    If America can forgive Giambi and his half-*** apology for no particular thing at all (remember that press conference a while back?), *cough* steroids *cough*, then they will forgive Ankiel. But it does take away from his storybook comeback somewhat.

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                    • skitch
                      Fear Ameer
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 12349

                      #25
                      Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                      I honestly don't understand how this is relevant to here and now. Okay, he received and probably did take HGH in 2004. Sure, it might have been wrong then and there at the time, I understand that. However, seeing as how he stopped receiving shipments of the drug after it was banned by Major League Baseball, what's the issue? How many people used HGH before it was illegal in the sport? Tons.

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                      • Skerik
                        Living in this tube
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5215

                        #26
                        Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                        Speaking as someone with Rick Ankiel on his fantasy team, I say we let Rick Ankiel use all the HGH he wants.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #27
                          Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                          Makes you wonder if McGuire had any part in this....
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                          • Jackdog
                            Wolverine Soldier
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 7719

                            #28
                            Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                            Originally posted by Kredit
                            I honestly don't understand how this is relevant to here and now. Okay, he received and probably did take HGH in 2004. Sure, it might have been wrong then and there at the time, I understand that. However, seeing as how he stopped receiving shipments of the drug after it was banned by Major League Baseball, what's the issue? How many people used HGH before it was illegal in the sport? Tons.
                            Absolutely right. I'll bet there are still tons using it now. MLB doesn't test for it.

                            I can take a bath ih HGH and still not be able to hit a fastball. This kid has talent and he's a great story. I don't care if he used it or not. Same holds true for Bonds or any other player in any other sport. They all use something. To much money at stake.

                            When I lost my leg after getting wounded in Iraq I took steroids for a year to help me fight off deadly infections. Doctors gave them to me. I get called a hero everyday by the same people that want to crucify an athlete like Ankiel. Not me. I am not a hypocrite. I hope the kid has a great career.
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                            • ComfortablyLomb
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 3548

                              #29
                              Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                              Originally posted by BigTigLSU
                              HGH doesnt make the ball easier to hit....
                              Yea, it just makes it easier to hit it harder. Or get around quicker. Or use a bigger bat which will apply more force to the ball. Or bounce back from injuries quicker like Rodney Harrison. You've still got to be able to hit to some degree but it will make you better.

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                              • daflyboys
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 18238

                                #30
                                Re: Ankiel received HGH shipments

                                Originally posted by Superstar
                                hopefully he'll come out and said he did it. Then say it was still legal back then, and that he's been clean for 3 years. Admit the mistake... even though its technically not one, and just move on. America will deal.

                                Only if HE DID do it. Can you see it now/then? The story buzz comes up. Names get thrown around. Ankiel is doing amazing. Someone drops his name as a potential. Media whore grabs the name and runs with it...... yadda, yadda, yadda.......

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