Oh, Milton

[Stu]

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I agree. If what the 1B coach, Meachem, said is true then Mike Winters is going to be looking for a new job.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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Sounds to me like the ump was at fault in this case.

I'm with you, Andrew. Bradley shouldn't have gone off like that, but at least SOME of the blame needs to go to the first base umpire. They shouldn't be allowed to say the same things that would get a player ejected from a ballgame.

If I'm desperate enough to offense I'll take just about anyone so long as they're not sacrificing chickens in the on-deck circle.

Hey man...I'd even take Pedro Cerano, as long as bats aren't afraid and Jobu help hit curveball.

[Stu]

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I'm with you, Andrew.

You're dead to me.

[bullpen]

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I don't understand all the hate towards Milton Bradley, or Carl Everett,

Baseball is a show (otherwise why would anybody actually go to the park ?).

I would rather have a guy like Bradley, then a guy like Dustin Pedroia who after getting hit by Alex Rodriguez (when breaking-up a double play) just stand there with his head down....good boy.

Personnaly when I'm watching sports, I wann see guys hating the other team, and reacting when things ar not going well...

I don't wan't to see players from different teams shakings hand before games, and wearing MLBPA caps after the game.

How do you think Pete Rose would have reacted ?

I'm tired of the all : get in line everyone, let's all be nice...

And by the way, if Bradley really would have wanted to hit the umpire , he would have.

[djordan]

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I agree. If what the 1B coach, Meachem, said is true then Mike Winters is going to be looking for a new job.

What did he say?

[J0nnD0ugh]

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What did he say?

Something along the lines of it was the most inappropriate convo he's ever heard in his 25+ years in baseball.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Veeerrrryyyy interesting. Peter Gammons just suggested that since MB is a FA & likely won't be able to sign w/anyone while he's injured, might have grounds to go to court. Now I can't see how MB could completely blame the umpire since he did go ballistic & it was his own manager tackling him that got him hurt. But if MLB doesn't do anything about the ump, it might give Bradley some ammo in a civil suit. Interesting variables here.

[Stu]

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MLB has suspended umpire Mike Winters for the remainder of the regular season. Way to come down hard on him! Can Goodell commish 2 sports at the same time? MLB is in desperate need of some new leadership.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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MLB has suspended umpire Mike Winters for the remainder of the regular season. Way to come down hard on him! Can Goodell commish 2 sports at the same time? MLB is in desperate need of some new leadership.

I'll take it. I would prefer a stronger message were sent. Again, the umps have the greater responsibility. I would think the league corroborated the story w/Todd helton. If so, I hope the umps don't take it out on Helton or the Padres. But, they are often known to hold a grudge. For years. For careers.

[Pared]

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Remainder of the season?? That's a week? OMG... way to send a message!

[SPTO]

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Remainder of the season?? That's a week? OMG... way to send a message!

MLB's hands are tied in some ways. the umpires union is almost as strong and united as the players union. If they were to fire Winters you'd bet your butt the umps would find a way to cause a disruption if they could.

Personally I think MLB should pull a Ronald Reagan and fire the entire umpiring unon and hire new people. If it worked for Reagan and air traffic controllers it can work for MLB.

[ComfortablyLomb]

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MLB's hands are tied in some ways. the umpires union is almost as strong and united as the players union. If they were to fire Winters you'd bet your butt the umps would find a way to cause a disruption if they could.

Personally I think MLB should pull a Ronald Reagan and fire the entire umpiring unon and hire new people. If it worked for Reagan and air traffic controllers it can work for MLB.

I think Reagan's firing of 11,000+ air traffic controllers was definitely one of the best "I'm not bluffing" actions in the history of the American presidency. The Potsdam Declaration is an obvious #1 choice. Reagan SMASH!

[rsox]

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I think Reagan's firing of 11,000+ air traffic controllers was definitely one of the best "I'm not bluffing" actions in the history of the American presidency. The Potsdam Declaration is an obvious #1 choice. Reagan SMASH!

Yep. Reagan did not mess around.

We could definitly use someone like that again.

[Stu]

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I liked these comments by Keith Law...

But more importantly, this is the first evidence we've seen that MLB recognizes there is a problem with its umpiring. The sight of an umpire baiting a player, or even one following a player to prolong an argument, has become all too commonplace. Meanwhile, you still see wildly inconsistent and often retributive strike zones, and umpires completely out of position to make safe/out calls. The quality of umpiring this year has been down, and there is a lack of accountability in the system -- bad umpires are not fired, not punished, and are often still selected to work the postseason. I'm hopeful this is just the start of an attempt to retake the game from the renegades among the men charged with adjudicating it.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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I agree. Too many times, umps pour fuel on the fire. They are vindictive. Umpires need their egos taken down a few notches. They shouldn't be abused, but they themselves shouldn't be abusive.