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  • Heelfan71
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 19940

    #316
    Re: RogerClemensReport.com

    Originally posted by ZB9
    Again, Clemens found the Nanny for them in the first place.

    wow. take off your blinders.
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    • ZB9
      Hall Of Fame
      • Nov 2004
      • 18387

      #317
      Re: RogerClemensReport.com

      Originally posted by Heelfan71
      wow. take off your blinders.
      do you dispute that Clemens found the Nanny? Like Davis said, congress would not have been able to depose her at all if he wouldnt have found her.

      did i mention that she did not have any attorney's with her, or anyone else, when she was deposed?
      Last edited by ZB9; 02-14-2008, 04:06 PM.

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      • Stu
        All Star
        • Jun 2004
        • 7924

        #318
        Re: RogerClemensReport.com

        Originally posted by ZB9
        do you dispute that Clemens found the Nanny? Like Davis said, congress would not have been able to depose her at all if he wouldnt have found her.
        Was she living in a cave or something? I'm pretty sure they would have been able to track her down if Clemens had simply provided her name and contact information as they requested. The idea that Clemens did them a favor by inviting her over to "talk" before they had a chance to talk to her is laughable.
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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #319
          Re: RogerClemensReport.com

          Originally posted by ZB9
          do you dispute that Clemens found the Nanny? Like Davis said, congress would not have been able to depose her at all if he wouldnt have found her.

          did i mention that she did not have any attorney's with her, or anyone else, when she was deposed?
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          • sbauer318
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2511

            #320
            Re: RogerClemensReport.com

            Originally posted by ZB9
            do you dispute that Clemens found the Nanny? Like Davis said, congress would not have been able to depose her at all if he wouldnt have found her.

            did i mention that she did not have any attorney's with her, or anyone else, when she was deposed?
            Personally, who cares what Rep. Davis had to say? The entire session yesterday was a political show. The democrats clearly did not believe Clemens and the Republicans didn't want to believe McNamee.

            The fact that Rep. Dan Burton proceeded to say that McNamee was telling "lie after lie after lie" and basically counted out anything McNamee was saying really upset me. He was more worried about how he would get his rep back. This shows me that his decision was made up before he even walked in. His decision was based on his political viewpoint.

            How so many politicians can slam someone for lying and not telling the entire truth is a joke. I wonder how many lies they told this week, let alone their entire career.

            And since when has Canseco been Mr. Honesty? How come nobody questioned his character? http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/...io_ordonez_rr/

            I wonder how much money we wasted with this.
            Last edited by sbauer318; 02-14-2008, 04:28 PM.
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            • Heelfan71
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 19940

              #321
              Re: RogerClemensReport.com

              Originally posted by ZB9
              do you dispute that Clemens found the Nanny? Like Davis said, congress would not have been able to depose her at all if he wouldnt have found her.

              did i mention that she did not have any attorney's with her, or anyone else, when she was deposed?
              he didn't just find her. If he gave them her phone # that would be one thing. But he found her, and invited her to his house FIRST. Why do you think that is ? To just sit down and have some coffee.
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              • ZB9
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2004
                • 18387

                #322
                Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                the cluelessness is truly astounding. Some of yall need to be introduced to reality.

                Clemens was asked on Friday afternoon to find her (the offices were closed over the weekend obviously). Clemens didnt even talk to her until Sunday. The reason congress wanted to find her was because she was their ticket to discredit all of the affidavids, and eyewitness acounts coming out discrediting their buddy Mitchell's "evidence" in the BBQ. Congress was scrambling.

                If they had a problem with Clemens finding her then they should have found her their damn selves instead of asking him. Its obvious this thing was a witch hunt, and knowing it is a witch hunt...you are out of your mind if you think Clemens would hand deliver a lady to congress that he hasnt seen in 7 years, that doesnt speak English as a first language (and who is reportedly scared of the government) without talking to her first, setting her at ease, explaining things to her, and seeing what she says about a not so coherent time from 10 years ago.

                She is exactly the type of witness that congress can manipulate, and being wary of having a witness manipulated is obviously understandable for Clemens after watching how this entire witch hunt has developed. It's obvious why congress was scrambling to find her in the first place.

                btw, did i mention that she didnt even have any attorneys with her when she was deposed? She could have had an attorney with her, and she could have pleaded the 5th.

                another btw, any witness can be influenced. If you think Clemens had more influence on witnesses than congress did in this witch hunt then you are crazy.
                Last edited by ZB9; 02-14-2008, 05:23 PM.

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                • snepp
                  We'll waste him too.
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 10007

                  #323
                  Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                  Don't mess with Texas mother****ers!


                  Roger sure made an arse out of himself, along with McNamee, and the reps. Oh who cares anymore, they're all a bunch of *******s.
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                  • Quint75
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3304

                    #324
                    Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                    Originally posted by ZB9
                    the cluelessness is truly astounding.
                    Yes, it is.

                    Tell me, ZB9: Is it your contention that Clemens is innocent of these charges (he never used PED's) or just that there is not enough proof to convict him?
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                    • ZB9
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 18387

                      #325
                      Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                      Originally posted by Quint75
                      Yes, it is.

                      Tell me, ZB9: Is it your contention that Clemens is innocent of these charges (he never used PED's) or just that there is not enough proof to convict him?
                      I dont know if he is innocent. I dont know if he is guilty or not either. Reading all of the depositions certainly doesnt lead to me thinking he is guilty.

                      it is clear that this thing is a witch hunt (and it's BS how both MLB and congress have handled it, but i digress). Knowing about the people, the motivation, and the situations surrounding the witch hunt...I dont automatically buy everything they are selling. They can cut and paste all they want, but there are way too many discrepencies
                      Last edited by ZB9; 02-14-2008, 07:18 PM.

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                      • nyisles16
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 8317

                        #326
                        Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                        gotta love this stuff:


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                        • ZB9
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 18387

                          #327
                          Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                          Originally posted by nyisles16
                          pardoned for what?

                          Emery needs to stop worrying about making statements in the press. The hearing is done. He has a defamation suite to get his client ready for, and that wont be strictly a court of public opinion. I cant wait to see that rat snitch pos McNamee cross examined.

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                          • SportsTop
                            The Few. The Proud.
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6716

                            #328
                            Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                            Originally posted by ZB9
                            pardoned for what?

                            Emery needs to stop worrying about making statements in the press. The hearing is done. He has a defamation suite to get his client ready for, and that wont be strictly a court of public opinion. I cant wait to see that rat snitch pos McNamee cross examined.
                            Seriously ZB....did McNamee kill your dog and steal your girlfriend?

                            Is Pettitte a rat snitch too? I don't understand this hatred you have towards McNamee.
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                            • Misfit
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 5766

                              #329
                              Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                              Originally posted by ZB9
                              the cluelessness is truly astounding. Some of yall need to be introduced to reality.

                              Clemens was asked on Friday afternoon to find her (the offices were closed over the weekend obviously). Clemens didnt even talk to her until Sunday. The reason congress wanted to find her was because she was their ticket to discredit all of the affidavids, and eyewitness acounts coming out discrediting their buddy Mitchell's "evidence" in the BBQ. Congress was scrambling.

                              If they had a problem with Clemens finding her then they should have found her their damn selves instead of asking him. Its obvious this thing was a witch hunt, and knowing it is a witch hunt...you are out of your mind if you think Clemens would hand deliver a lady to congress that he hasnt seen in 7 years, that doesnt speak English as a first language (and who is reportedly scared of the government) without talking to her first, setting her at ease, explaining things to her, and seeing what she says about a not so coherent time from 10 years ago.
                              So you're aware that you basically just defined witness tampering in your explanation of the situation, claiming Clemens would be crazy not to tamper with her before giving her contact information to Congress? Please don't call people crazy and clueless for not having the same point of view as you do.

                              Because of the tampering, the nanny's deposition should be throw out and rendered inadmissible. The focus of any investigation shouldn't be on a party at Canseco's house anyways. If they really want answers on it they should track down everyone who was there and ask them if Clemens was present, otherwise move on.

                              I have a feeling nothing more is going to follow though. There isn't enough substance to go at Roger with anything. They really dropped the ball but excusing Pettite from the hearings as I feel only Andy sitting there beside Roger condemning him would possibly fluster the guy. Congress will probably just leave the rest up to the court of public opinion.

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                              • JayBee74
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 22989

                                #330
                                Re: RogerClemensReport.com

                                Originally posted by Heelfan71
                                he didn't just find her. If he gave them her phone # that would be one thing. But he found her, and invited her to his house FIRST. Why do you think that is ? To just sit down and have some coffee.
                                Heel, you're so suspicious. Roger probably missed her.

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