Most promising young pitcher?

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Most promising young pitcher?

You forgot the Rays have Matt Garza as well, filthy stuff.

Wow, yeah, good call.

Kazmir
Garza
McGee
Davis
Price

Not to mention they have Jeff Niemann who's highly touted as well. Really not fair.

[ZM Punk]

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Yeah, and Pedro hasn't broken down at all, right?

He was the best pitcher in baseball for 6-7 years, but now he's a shadow of his former self at only 35 years old.

I wouldn't care if the guy never won another game after he was 30 if he could give me 6 or 7 years that Pedro had. Pedro had the most dominant 5 year run of anyone in baseball history in the late 90's.

I'm pretty sure most of he pitchers coming up would be happy to have half the career that Pedro had.

[CMH]

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I see the guy pitch every 5 days, you can't just run over to ESPN.com and look up his numbers. He wasn't healthy, wasn't winning, even when he had good games he seemed to struggle through them, he's a broken down pitcher, and he was just that in 2006. 1.108 WHIP or not.

Don't stats tell the story, though?

You are without a doubt using stats to compare Pedro of before to Pedro of now so why can't someone use stats to prove that he hasn't been as bad as you think?

[asrabbit91]

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Not being a homer, but Adam Wainright, the skys the limit to that kid.

[dodgerblue]

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Being a homer, Clayton Kershaw!

[gamelover13]

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I can't believe nobody said Fausto Carmona.

[asrabbit91]

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I can't believe nobody said Fausto Carmona.

He's already won like 19 games, he wants under the radar people. Garza also is going to be a good one I think. Terrible move for the Twins, especially with the trade of Santana.

[BatsareBugs]

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When did I say anything about Tim Lincecum? I was replying to what rag said about LaSorda and Pedro.

Pitchers falling off the face of the earth happens. You should be familiar with that since you experienced it first hand with several pitchers on your team.

[Vgmastr]

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No love for Yovani Gallardo? He put up a 3.67 ERA as a 21 year old rookie, and has unlimited potential. Plus he has some pop as well, .250 BA with 2 HR.

[sportsdude]

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No love for Yovani Gallardo? He put up a 3.67 ERA as a 21 year old rookie, and has unlimited potential. Plus he has some pop as well, .250 BA with 2 HR.

Gallardo's got some pretty nasty stuff.

[Sandman42]

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No love for Yovani Gallardo? He put up a 3.67 ERA as a 21 year old rookie, and has unlimited potential. Plus he has some pop as well, .250 BA with 2 HR.

I was thinking about including him on my list as well. He has nasty stuff and if Sheets stays healthy they could produce a nasty 1-2 combo for years to come.

[rubisco43]

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Didn't Tommy Lasorda think the same with Pedro Martinez?

Good point. There are of course, always exceptions to the rule. Mix Lincecum's size plus his awkward 12 o'clock delivery, he's bound to have shoulder problems.

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[rubisco43]

Re: Most promising young pitcher?

Franklin Morales (Rockies)
Adam Loewen (Orioles)
Tim Lincecum (Giants)
Johnny Cueto (Reds)
Jake McGee (Rays)
Wade Davis (Rays)
David Price (Rays)


The Rays are going to have 4 legit #1-#2 starters on their team with those three plus Kazmir. Not fair.

I'm not sold on Loewen. Sure, he's done really well against some of the big AL East teams, but look at his WHIP last year (1.747)... that's not going to cut it in the long run. If he can control his pitches, he might be something special, but from what I've seen (on TV and in person), he's not going to get himself out of 2 men on 1 out situations on a consistent basis.

[rubisco43]

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Roy Oswalt's done pretty well for himself.

Another good example of a small pitcher that does well. He's in his 7th major league season and he's thrown a TON of innings. I have a feeling he's bound for the DL soon. I hope he proves me wrong; he's one of the more fun pitchers to watch out there.

[BunnyHardaway]

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I'm not sold on Loewen. Sure, he's done really well against some of the big AL East teams, but look at his WHIP last year (1.747)... that's not going to cut it in the long run. If he can control his pitches, he might be something special, but from what I've seen (on TV and in person), he's not going to get himself out of 2 men on 1 out situations on a consistent basis.

I know the numbers don't look great, I just have a gut feeling that he's gonna be a monster for many years...I don't have any good reasoning for it, I just have a feeling.