If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

[Speedy]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

Andy Marte is a bust.

Any 3rd baseman who came thru the Braves organization the last 15 yrs is a bust. Calling Wes Helms, Wilson Betemit...

[rsox]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

Any 3rd baseman who came thru the Braves organization the last 15 yrs is a bust. Calling Wes Helms, Wilson Betemit...

To be fair both have excelled in part-time roles.

And i wouldn't call Chipper Jones a bust.

[Stroehms]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

St. Louis Cardinals Off-Season

1. Re-sign Felipe Lopez to play 2B.
2. Get rid of Chris Duncan.
3. Start Colby Rasmus in CF.
4. Chris Perez as Closer.
5. Sign Edgar Renteria to play SS.
6. Sign Jeremy Affeldt*(sp).
7. Give into Kennedy's request and trade the lil' dude.
8. Re-sign Braden Looper.
9. After a stellar spring, promote David Freese to MLB and Brett Wallace to AAA.
10. Re-sign Russ Springer


Lineup:

1. Rasmus CF
2. Renteria SS
3. Pujols 1B
4. Ludwick RF
5. Glaus 3B
6. Ankiel LF
7. Molina C
8. Wainright SP
9. Lopez 2B

Rotation:

1. Wainright
2. Lohse
3. Wellemeyer
4. Looper
5. Piniero

(Carpenter up there if healthy).

Bullpen:

RHP:

Franklin
Motte
Springer
McClellan
Kinney

LHP:

Affeldt*(sp)
Tyler Johnson

Bench:

1. Miles
2. Larue
3. Freese
4. Schumaker

[SpacemanSpiff]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

You'd think they'd be smart enough by now to realize that the best way to win championships is to develop within but obviously they don't believe that's the case.

I don't see how going out and signing these guys detracts from developing from within. I'd understand if the plan was to trade all our pitching prospects that we're stockpiling for older, veteran stars but Cashman has stuck by his prospects ever since George started to defer to his people. We won't be players for Peavy and we didn't trade for Johan because we wanted to hold onto our young guys. The obviously do believe that's the case. It's just that our minor league system overall is weak because of previous years of neglect.

[Stroehms]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

I don't see how going out and signing these guys detracts from developing from within. I'd understand if the plan was to trade all our pitching prospects that we're stockpiling for older, veteran stars but Cashman has stuck by his prospects ever since George started to defer to his people. We won't be players for Peavy and we didn't trade for Johan because we wanted to hold onto our young guys. The obviously do believe that's the case. It's just that our minor league system overall is weak because of previous years of neglect.

It does actually. If you fill up your team with FA signed to long term deals, where are your developed prospects going to end up?

Answer: Probably winning the AAA World Series.

The developing cylce would not be complete if the prospects weren't called up or shipped out.

[Coug00]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

I don't see how going out and signing these guys detracts from developing from within. I'd understand if the plan was to trade all our pitching prospects that we're stockpiling for older, veteran stars but Cashman has stuck by his prospects ever since George started to defer to his people. We won't be players for Peavy and we didn't trade for Johan because we wanted to hold onto our young guys. The obviously do believe that's the case. It's just that our minor league system overall is weak because of previous years of neglect.

That's four type A free agents you mentioned, so the Yankees would lose their first four draft picks in June's draft. Sabathia, Sheets, Teixeira, and Ramirez will all be offered arbitration and decline, so the Yanks will have to lose those picks. Just ask the Mariners, who were Type A free agent junkies during the Gillick era, what losing all those picks does to your minor league system.

[CMH]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

And that's another reason why I prefer they only go after Sheets and/or Burnett in terms of pitching.

Going after Tex and CC does nothing to develop the youth and they'll cost more than they deserve without a doubt.

[Speedy]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

To be fair both have excelled in part-time roles.

And i wouldn't call Chipper Jones a bust.

The past 15 yrs excludes Chipper b/c his rookie year was either '94 or '95; the other 3Bs, idk about excelling...

[Sandman42]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

That's four type A free agents you mentioned, so the Yankees would lose their first four draft picks in June's draft. Sabathia, Sheets, Teixeira, and Ramirez will all be offered arbitration and decline, so the Yanks will have to lose those picks. Just ask the Mariners, who were Type A free agent junkies during the Gillick era, what losing all those picks does to your minor league system.

They would actually still keep at least 1 first round pick and 1 second round pick because they couldn't sign Gerrit Cole or Scott Bittle this past draft. You can't lose your compensation picks by signing a type A free agent. Also they're probably going to add some other picks anyway if other teams sign Abreu, Marte, and Pudge.

[Coug00]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

They would actually still keep at least 1 first round pick and 1 second round pick because they couldn't sign Gerrit Cole or Scott Bittle this past draft. You can't lose your compensation picks by signing a type A free agent. Also they're probably going to add some other picks anyway if other teams sign Abreu, Marte, and Pudge.

They'll drop 1 slot in each round for those players.

I'm not sold on them risking arbitration to Abreu, Marte, and Pudge. No arbi offer, no compensation.

[rsox]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

The past 15 yrs excludes Chipper b/c his rookie year was either '94 or '95; the other 3Bs, idk about excelling...

Chipper's rookie year was '95, which was 15 years ago. But i do agree with you that these players have not lived up to their hype. And you can throw Jose Oliva's name on the list.

[Speedy]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

Chipper's rookie year was '95, which was 15 years ago. But i do agree with you that these players have not lived up to their hype. And you can throw Jose Oliva's name on the list.

Sorry, I can't do arithmetic on Mondays

[JBH3]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

Phillies...Thank Burrell for the last two yrs where he actually earned his money.

Sign CC long-term.

Not pickup Geoff Jenkins option.

Waive buh-bye to Flash Gordon.

Re-sign Jayson Werth and Gregg Dobbs.

Sign a RH hitting OF to platoon w/ Dobbs in LF...Juan Rivera perhaps or give Gregg Golson a shot as a platoon mate.

Sign a super utility man.

Call up Carlos Carrasco as the 5th starter.

Add a bullpen arm.

[Melanconfan]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

And that's another reason why I prefer they only go after Sheets and/or Burnett in terms of pitching.

Going after Tex and CC does nothing to develop the youth and they'll cost more than they deserve without a doubt.

Bringing in Tex and CC also does absolutely nothing to adversely affect the development of the youth but it does fill two major holes on the big team.

[Melanconfan]

Re: If you could choose your team's moves this offseason what would you do?

Just to stay on topic, what I want the Yankees to do:

Sign CC (an absolute max in years and money of $175 mil/7 yrs)
Sign Teixeira (Max of $155/7 yrs)
Re-Sign one of Pettitte/Mussina
Offer Abreu arbitration, if he accepts fine, if not we get picks.
See about getting a young catcher in case Posada can't handle the workload
Pray Brett Gardner turns into Brett Butler

And as much as I don't want to add another big FA starter, make an offer to Sheets of about $30/2 yrs with an option for a third. I worry about his injury at the end of the season but if they can use that to get him to sign for just 2 years I might be fine with taking that risk. Better than commiting 4+ years to Burnett, Dempster, etc.

Line-up
LF - Damon
SS - Jeter
1B - Teixeira
3B - A-Rod
DH - Matsui
C - Posada
2B - Cano
RF - Nady
CF - Gardner

Bench
C - Molina
IF - Betemit
OF - Melky (Yeah I don't like it either)
1B/UTIL - Ranson/Duncan

Rotation
Sabathia
Wang
Pettitte/Mussina
Sheets
Joba/Hughes/etc.

Bullpen:
Giese/Rasner
Marte
Ramirez
Veras
Bruney/Coke
Robertson/Melancon
Rivera