Tex goes to the Bronx

[jpup]

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If it was 10 or 30 years ago, you'd be right. That line of thinking hasn't translated in to success in recently.

They made the playoff for what, 13 or 14 straight years. I think they is pretty successful. Baseball is a business and their business is more successful than anyone else.

[DTX3]

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they had the same expectations 10 years ago and they tore the league up

What does that have to do with this upcoming year? and what happen the last couple of years? i guess they lowered expectations? Expectations are MASSIVE for the 2009 Yankees. New stadium, and three big fishes sportin' the pinstripes, not to mention the increased payroll. They'll fail as the Sox continue to be slept on.

[jpup]

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What does that have to do with this upcoming year? and what happen the last couple of years? i guess they lowered expectations? Expectations are MASSIVE for the 2009 Yankees. New stadium, and three big fishes sportin' the pinstripes, not to mention the increased payroll. They'll fail as the Sox continue to be slept on.

I don't think anyone is sleeping on Boston. That's all you hear about. The Red Sox and Yankees.

[bkrich83]

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How about the Mets? How many rings they got? How about the Dodgers, Cubs, Angels, White Sox, Rangers, Astros, etc. Those are all huge markets.

Angels aren't a huge market. And the Angels do have a ring more recently than the Yankees do.

Sorry but the Yankees market dwarfs all of those. In the Mets case they are second fiddle in that city, and the Yankees own the region all around New York.

The argument the Yankees do baseball business better doesn't fly.

If they were located in say, Seattle, would they have had the success they've had, would they have the revenue to do what they do now?

They can throw money at players now, and if the player doesn't pan out, no biggie. Other organizations that would cripple them.

If they did baseball better than everyone else, they'd have a lot more titles, especially recently where the gap between their payroll and everyone elses is so large.

[bkrich83]

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Baseball is a business and their business is more successful than anyone else.

Only because of their market. Not because they are any shrewder than anyone else.

[DTX3]

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I don't think anyone is sleeping on Boston. That's all you hear about. The Red Sox and Yankees.

Well now that the Yanks scored on 3 of the top free agents, ESPN and others are going to ride all up on their nuts while the Sox will continue to do their thing, their way.

[bkrich83]

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They made the playoff for what, 13 or 14 straight years..

When you have a 200+ Million dollar payroll, making the playoffs isn't good enough. Hell this year they didn't even make the playoffs. That's a collosal failure.

[bkrich83]

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Well now that the Yanks scored on 3 of the top free agents, ESPN and others are going to ride all up on their nuts while the Sox will continue to do their thing, their way.

They have the 4 largest contracts in baseball. I am sorry but am I the only one that finds that ridiculous?

[jpup]

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Angels aren't a huge market. And the Angels do have a ring more recently than the Yankees do.

Sorry but the Yankees market dwarfs all of those. In the Mets case they are second fiddle in that city, and the Yankees own the region all around New York.

The argument the Yankees do baseball business better doesn't fly.

If they were located in say, Seattle, would they have had the success they've had, would they have the revenue to do what they do now?

They can throw money at players now, and if the player doesn't pan out, no biggie. Other organizations that would cripple them.

If they did baseball better than everyone else, they'd have a lot more titles, especially recently where the gap between their payroll and everyone elses is so large.

You are not making sense. They have 26 World Championships. No one else is even close. It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it. I would call making the playoffs a successful season.

What about the Mets? They are in the same market. The reason the Yankees own the entire area is because they market so well, thus, they do baseball better than anyone. BTW, LA is the second largest market in the US. What about Chicago, Houston, Dallas-Ft Worth (Arlington), etc. Why aren't those teams successful on the field?

[snepp]

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They have the 4 largest contracts in baseball. I am sorry but am I the only one that finds that ridiculous?

Their starting infield alone next season will have a higher payroll than the majority of the teams in the league.

[jpup]

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They have the 4 largest contracts in baseball. I am sorry but am I the only one that finds that ridiculous?

I thought you were not interested in baseball? Why does it bother you then?

[Sandman42]

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This is what I expected coming in to this thread. Makes me happy, I love when everyone hates the Yankees.

[DTX3]

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They have the 4 largest contracts in baseball. I am sorry but am I the only one that finds that ridiculous?

Nope, but it's pretty hilarious that even with their big payroll, they continue to be out played by teams that have no business beating them on paper, not to mention the Angels are the Yankees kryptonite.

[snepp]

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You are not making sense. They have 26 World Championships. No one else is even close. It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it. I would call making the playoffs a successful season.

It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it? Talk about deep-sixing your own argument. They've done a terrible job of allocating their resources.

[djep]

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That's not really true. If they did, they'd have more on field success than they do.

They can spend more than everyone else, and they have a higher revenue stream, due to their geographic location, and taking advantage of some baseball TV rules, but I don't think you can say they do the business of baseball better. They are the team from the country's largest market, that's the A-1 reason for their financial success.

They do have on field success - in the form of 13 straight postseason appearances prior to last season. What allows them to spend is not just the geographic location of the team but in how they manage the brand. The NYC definitely is a factor but it is a split market. There is another team in this market who doesn't draw nearly as well as the Yankees, who are setting attendance records every year.

The Yankees invest in their on field product - they bring in the stars, and people either tune in or come out to see them, whcih brings in more money. I love those 90's teams as much as anyone with all their championships but I remember going to those games on Tuesday nights and the Stadium would have 20 - 25 thousand people max. Now you'll be hard pressed to find a game where they draw under 45 thousand.