A-Rod tested positive for 'roids in '03

[WazzuRC]

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My personal opinion is that Jr was juicing. I say that simple because of all the leg injuries the guy has had and he has broken down in strange ways on the field. I don't know if Manny does it or not, it was said earlier in this thread that he was really skinny with the Indians. But I just think that's because he was basically a kid then. As far as Alex goes, his body to my eyes hasn't changed all that much.

That's the worst logic ever for someone juicing. Not saying it COULD happen, but just because I guy is injury prone makes him a juicer?

[CMH]

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There is just something off about him. Even though I'm a big Yanks fan I still make fun of him all the time. He always seems so uneasy and goofy - and has some borderline, um, feminine mannerisms.

I really think it's that he reminds everyone of that kid you knew growing up who wanted to be just like you. He follows you wherever you go, he says everything you say, and he just wants to be part of the club.

Alex seems to be that kind of guy that is never sure of himself. He constantly needs reassurance that he is welcome and accepted. And he doesn't know how to come off as not feeling needy. That's the vibe I get from him.

[Heelfan71]

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It doesn't mean you are on roids just because you have injuries. I would venture to say that if you are juicing, then you would probably stay healthier and stronger during the season.

Steroids cause your muscles to grow too fast for your tendons and can cause you to get injured more easily. Also can help you recover faster if you are already injured.

[BigDofBA]

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Steroids cause your muscles to grow too fast for your tendons and can cause you to get injured more easily. Also can help you recover faster if you are already injured.

True but I don't think that's why Griffey was injured. He got injured diving for balls and running into walls. He also had nagging hamstring injuries which a lot of athletes have.

[Porschebenz2001]

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Selig says Arod shamed the game.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9211978/Selig-on-A-Rod:-He-%27shamed-the-game%27

Real smart Bud because you've done such a brilliant job.

[JBH3]

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Selig says Arod shamed the game.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9211978/Selig-on-A-Rod:-He-%27shamed-the-game%27

Real smart Bud because you've done such a brilliant job.

Yea...that's the pot calling the kettle black.

Accept responsibility Bud.

[NYJets]

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I love how every time it comes out that a player used steroids back when there were no punishments, Bud says he's considering suspending them, like he actually could.

[Heelfan71]

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True but I don't think that's why Griffey was injured. He got injured diving for balls and running into walls. He also had nagging hamstring injuries which a lot of athletes have.

I don't think he did them either. His problem was he didn't stretch much, especially when he was younger. And his stats have declined as he got older, not the other way around like Bonds.

[OSUFan_88]

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Selig says Arod shamed the game.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9211978/Selig-on-A-Rod:-He-%27shamed-the-game%27

Real smart Bud because you've done such a brilliant job.

Selig really just needs to resign. I don't know who really wants him in that spot anymore.

However, he does have a point, A-Rod did shame the game in taking steroids. Just because Bud is Uber guilty does not mean he is wrong.

[Donovan]

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Selig says Arod shamed the game.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9211978/Selig-on-A-Rod:-He-%27shamed-the-game%27

Real smart Bud because you've done such a brilliant job.

Why is Bud Selig talking big now? Are we to believe that the Sports Illustrated report is the first time that Bud Selig heard about A-Rod's positive test? It seems hard to believe that Congress has seen the list but the commissioner of baseball never did! What a joke!

[wwharton]

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Selig really just needs to resign. I don't know who really wants him in that spot anymore.

However, he does have a point, A-Rod did shame the game in taking steroids. Just because Bud is Uber guilty does not mean he is wrong.

ARod did not "shame the game". If anyone did it was Bud. As I said in the other thread, Selig made the agreement with the players union that the survey would be given to all players only for research. The survey showed that 104 players were juicing and Bud did nothing from that point until Congress got involved. ARod and all the other players did what every other American with drive does... everything they could do to be the best they could be at their profession without penalty. Sure, some have the internal moral grounding to be above this general practice, and they should be praised, but the majority fall in the category. Mike Schmidt took amphetamines along with others, some used corked bats, others scuffed and spit on balls, etc... and that's just talking about baseball. We all toe the line of the law to be successful and get an edge over the next guy. It's the American way.

Selig's job is to police the sport and draw a line between what is acceptable and a complete disgrace. If we're going to agree that players using steroids is a complete disgrace then Bud should've done much more to discourage it looooong ago. And he certainly shouldn't be trying to remove himself from the equation now. Remember, he was there when the surveys were taken. He's known every 104 names since 2003. If he believes ARod and the other 103 players shamed the game as much as he said, why is he just speaking about it now?

EDIT: It IS possible that Bud only knew that there were 104 players and didn't know the names of each player. That doesn't change my opinion but makes things a little different. I personally think if the issue with roids is the health of the players and the trickle down effect to kids, then it shouldn't be any more of an outrage that the potential next HR leader did it than anyone else.

[Porschebenz2001]

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Just saw on the Bottomline that it was 4 players that ratted out Arod to the Mets guy.

It was obviously all about a grudge against Arod. Lol I hope they were payed well for being rats.

[twiztiddarkangelman]

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Selig and the baseball owners are just as responsible for this steroid mess as are the players. The reason the owners and Selig did nothing is simple. It was not economically in they're interest to clean up the game. IE the homerun chase of 98 that drew interest from baseball and non baseball fans alike. And Bonds. If anyone shed shame on baseball its that paper tiger Selig and all the owners who pay his salary. How about Bud's brillant decision during the allstar game in his former teams park, to have that game end in a tie. And we wonder why things are so messed up in the game. Baseball needs to release all the names, I'm no big ARod fan, but its simply not fair that his name is the only one out there.

[wwharton]

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It'd be less fair to the other 103 players to release their names just because ARod's name was leaked. I won't mention the legal issues with the MLB releasing those names again, but you can also consider that there will never be another attempt to poll players for honest opinions or results of any kind if the names were released.

[twiztiddarkangelman]

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Its just a matter of time now before all of these names are released. Once the Feds got the list, just like anything the Feds get their hands on it gets leaked eventually. At least i think so.