Name players that you think were clean during the steroid era
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If Roy Halladay ever took PEDs i'd be crying for weeks on end.
That's how much i've put him on a pedestal.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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I forgot about Chipper, but I don't think he did them either. That was basically just a "off the top of my head" list.Comment
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This is the "rumored" names on the list
Alex Rodriguez, Samy Sosa, Jason Giambi, Jason Grimsley
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens
Eric Gagne, David Ortiz
Rafael Palmiero, Luis Gonzales, Javy Lopez
Gary Sheffield, Albert Pujols, Troy Glaus
Carlos Delgado, Alfonso Soriano, Kevin Brown,
Billy Wagner, Paul LoDuca Richie Sexson. Marcus Giles, Brian Giles, Mike Lowell, Aaron Boone, Andruw Jones, Rondell White, Jason Varitek, Bret Boone, Melvin Mora, Carl Everett, Dmitri Young, Keith Foulke, Brendan Donnelly, Lance Carter, Jose Vidro, Gabe Kapler, Curt Schilling, Derek Jeter, Juan Rivera, Adrian Beltre. Shawn Green, Brain Lawrence, Phil Neven, Ryan Klesko, Benito Santiago, Jeff Kent, Kenny Rogers, Brad Fullmer, Sean Casey, Miguel Tejada, Raul Mondesi, Steve Finley, Jay Bell, Mo Vaughn, Jeromy Burnitz, Arthur Rhodes, Nick Swisher, Jason Kendall, Roberto Alomar (I hope he didn't share his needle), John Garland. Brad Wilkerson, Jeff Jenkins, Brade Lidge, Morgan Ensberg, Jeff Bagwell, Tino Martinez, Armando Benitez, Jeff Conine, Randy Choate, Vinny Castilla, Carlos Beltran, Juan Gonzalez, David Bell, Brett Myers, Jimmy Rollins, Jim Thome, Russ Springer, Bobby Abreu, Matt Mantei, Todd Hundley. Fred McGriff, Jason Schmidt, Matt Herges, Raul Ibanez, Terry Adams, Shea Hillenbrand, Jim Edmonds, Jeremy Giambi, Ken Girffey Jr., Ruben Sierra, John Flaherty, Ramiro Mendoza, Karim Garcia, Fernando Vina, David Segui, Buddy Groom, Scott Rolen, Jose Guillen, Jose Offerman, Sterling Hitchcock, Ben Weber, Erubiel Durazo, Andy Ashby, Rod Beck.“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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This is the "rumored" names on the list
Alex Rodriguez, Samy Sosa, Jason Giambi, Jason Grimsley
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens
Eric Gagne, David Ortiz
Rafael Palmiero, Luis Gonzales, Javy Lopez
Gary Sheffield, Albert Pujols, Troy Glaus
Carlos Delgado, Alfonso Soriano, Kevin Brown,
Billy Wagner, Paul LoDuca Richie Sexson. Marcus Giles, Brian Giles, Mike Lowell, Aaron Boone, Andruw Jones, Rondell White, Jason Varitek, Bret Boone, Melvin Mora, Carl Everett, Dmitri Young, Keith Foulke, Brendan Donnelly, Lance Carter, Jose Vidro, Gabe Kapler, Curt Schilling, Derek Jeter, Juan Rivera, Adrian Beltre. Shawn Green, Brain Lawrence, Phil Neven, Ryan Klesko, Benito Santiago, Jeff Kent, Kenny Rogers, Brad Fullmer, Sean Casey, Miguel Tejada, Raul Mondesi, Steve Finley, Jay Bell, Mo Vaughn, Jeromy Burnitz, Arthur Rhodes, Nick Swisher, Jason Kendall, Roberto Alomar (I hope he didn't share his needle), John Garland. Brad Wilkerson, Jeff Jenkins, Brade Lidge, Morgan Ensberg, Jeff Bagwell, Tino Martinez, Armando Benitez, Jeff Conine, Randy Choate, Vinny Castilla, Carlos Beltran, Juan Gonzalez, David Bell, Brett Myers, Jimmy Rollins, Jim Thome, Russ Springer, Bobby Abreu, Matt Mantei, Todd Hundley. Fred McGriff, Jason Schmidt, Matt Herges, Raul Ibanez, Terry Adams, Shea Hillenbrand, Jim Edmonds, Jeremy Giambi, Ken Girffey Jr., Ruben Sierra, John Flaherty, Ramiro Mendoza, Karim Garcia, Fernando Vina, David Segui, Buddy Groom, Scott Rolen, Jose Guillen, Jose Offerman, Sterling Hitchcock, Ben Weber, Erubiel Durazo, Andy Ashby, Rod Beck.
Nevin and Klesko, I wouldn't be shocked at all.
I think Ibanez and Griffey is stretching it and...
Rod Beck, Andy Ashby, and Brian Lawrence? I think Rod Beck would've turned up for something else that might've gotten him on this list, given that he ended up having serious problems. Andy Ashby was done and Brian Lawrence and Sterling Hitchcock... I mean seriously?
In either case, if it turns out to be true, then ****.Comment
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Name players that you think were clean during the steroid era
If they weren't taking them to get huge, they were taking them to recover. There might have been one or two that abstained for health issues or whatever, but good luck finding that needle in a haystack.
I imagine it's pretty similar to finding a kid in America under 21 that hasn't ever drank. It's completely illegal, but the culture is that it's not a big deal and everyone is doing it. Sure there are some kids who are "clean", but talk about rare.
What could possibly be the parameters for who you guys think are "no doubters" for being clean? They seem like good guys? They had a "sweet swing"? For years Rafael Palmeiro was always one of the first names listed in these kinds of threads, because his swing was just "too natural' to have ever taken steroids. Haha, look how that turned out.
It's impossible to pinpoint who did what, and thrusting faith in select guys as for sure "clean players" just seems ridiculous.Last edited by kweiss; 06-18-2009, 02:02 AM.Comment
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None.
If they weren't taking them to get huge, they were taking them to recover. There might have been one or two that abstained for health issues or whatever, but good luck finding that needle in a haystack.
I imagine it's pretty similar to finding a kid in America under 21 that hasn't ever drank. It's completely illegal, but the culture is that it's not a big deal and everyone is doing it. Sure there are some kids who are "clean", but talk about rare.
What could possibly be the parameters for who you guys think are "no doubters" for being clean? They seem like good guys? They had a "sweet swing"? For years Rafael Palmeiro was always one of the first names listed in these kinds of threads, because his swing was just "too natural' to have ever taken steroids. Haha, look how that turned out.
It's impossible to pinpoint who did what, and thrusting faith in select guys as for sure "clean players" just seems ridiculous.
Although I am 21 now. Okay, back on topic.Comment
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Players who I would be devastated if I found out the used:
Jim Thome
Ken Griffy jr.
Frank Thomas
Roy Holiday
Albert Pujols (Not sure about him)Comment
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I'm fairly certain it was already confirmed that Bonds is not on the 2003 list. The federal government subpoenaed the list in their case against Bonds and he wasn't on there.Comment
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2004 and on
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Every played year before that
Line signifies the start of serious testing in baseball. There and admit everyone with the numbers in to the Hall worthy enough, and the ones not to bad. If players are caught using in current time, suspend them, if they do it again suspend them again, then ban them if again. People make mistakes. Especially when everyone else is doing it.
Also everyone that is gonna come post and say, Oh such and such shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as ....... If you think the steroid era has just been recently, I would call you stupid. It is pretty widely believed that steroids were in major use across sports since the 1970's till now. The media was not the machine of finding evidence that it currently is now.Comment
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I may have miscounted but I only see 7 former pirates that i can recognize on that list. go bucs!
Barry Bonds
Brian Giles
Sean Casey
Jay Bell
Jeromy Burnitz
Jason Kendall
Jose Guillen
I don't think Bonds was taking steroids when he was with the bucs because he was very lanky at the time(he was there leadoff hitter)Comment
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I may have miscounted but I only see 7 former pirates that i can recognize on that list. go bucs!
Barry Bonds
Brian Giles
Sean Casey
Jay Bell
Jeromy Burnitz
Jason Kendall
Jose Guillen
I don't think Bonds was taking steroids when he was with the bucs because he was very lanky at the time(he was there leadoff hitter)"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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