Name players that you think were clean during the steroid era

[Scottdau]

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I still say A.P. was on them too. I hope not, but I will not be shocked if he did.

[Seahawk76]

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This is the "rumored" names on the list

Alex Rodriguez, Samy Sosa, Jason Giambi, Jason Grimsley
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens
Eric Gagne, David Ortiz
Rafael Palmiero, Luis Gonzales, Javy Lopez
Gary Sheffield, Albert Pujols, Troy Glaus
Carlos Delgado, Alfonso Soriano, Kevin Brown,
Billy Wagner, Paul LoDuca Richie Sexson. Marcus Giles, Brian Giles, Mike Lowell, Aaron Boone, Andruw Jones, Rondell White, Jason Varitek, Bret Boone, Melvin Mora, Carl Everett, Dmitri Young, Keith Foulke, Brendan Donnelly, Lance Carter, Jose Vidro, Gabe Kapler, Curt Schilling, Derek Jeter, Juan Rivera, Adrian Beltre. Shawn Green, Brain Lawrence, Phil Neven, Ryan Klesko, Benito Santiago, Jeff Kent, Kenny Rogers, Brad Fullmer, Sean Casey, Miguel Tejada, Raul Mondesi, Steve Finley, Jay Bell, Mo Vaughn, Jeromy Burnitz, Arthur Rhodes, Nick Swisher, Jason Kendall, Roberto Alomar (I hope he didn't share his needle), John Garland. Brad Wilkerson, Jeff Jenkins, Brade Lidge, Morgan Ensberg, Jeff Bagwell, Tino Martinez, Armando Benitez, Jeff Conine, Randy Choate, Vinny Castilla, Carlos Beltran, Juan Gonzalez, David Bell, Brett Myers, Jimmy Rollins, Jim Thome, Russ Springer, Bobby Abreu, Matt Mantei, Todd Hundley. Fred McGriff, Jason Schmidt, Matt Herges, Raul Ibanez, Terry Adams, Shea Hillenbrand, Jim Edmonds, Jeremy Giambi, Ken Girffey Jr., Ruben Sierra, John Flaherty, Ramiro Mendoza, Karim Garcia, Fernando Vina, David Segui, Buddy Groom, Scott Rolen, Jose Guillen, Jose Offerman, Sterling Hitchcock, Ben Weber, Erubiel Durazo, Andy Ashby, Rod Beck.

This list is BS.

[LingeringRegime]

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Ichiro, and the rest of the native Japanese players.

Beyond that I wouldn't be surprised if all the rest juiced (are juicing). Baseball is pathetic now. This problem will never go away unless they hand out lifetime suspensions. But of course that will never happen.

[rsox]

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With as vocal as Curt Schilling has been against PED's and how to punish players who have been caught i would hope he is not on any lists.

For some reason i don't think Jeter is on any lists either.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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David Ortiz
Curt Schilling

No way in hell ortiz was clean when he went to boston, I think Schilling is 100% BS when he talks about it saying people should be banned ect. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do it.

[rsox]

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No way in hell ortiz was clean when he went to boston, I think Schilling is 100% BS when he talks about it saying people should be banned ect. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't do it.

In light of the way this season started for Ortiz i now question whether or not he is(was?) clean.

I'm still not sold on Schilling being guilty. The guy rubs a lot of people the wrong way because he is so outspoken--about everything. That said, I'm sure there are a lot of players and reporters who can't stand Schilling and would love to out him but he is yet to be implicated in anything.

[bababooey76]

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I cannot really comfortably name anyone I would not at least suspect. That is how sad it is. Griffey and Jeter would be the two big names that I would be most comfortable with guessing.

[vols bravesfan]

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Griffey
Jeter
Chipper Jones

[steelcurtain311]

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Albert didn't juice. His numbers have always been the same. He's the best hitter in the game, plain and simple.

Selig himself said Albert was tested, I think 6 times, last season. Albert's said he's been tested dozens of times over the past 5 years, so I wish people would stop acting like he's hiding it or something. Manny failed a test recently, testing works, superstars aren't protected, there's two facts we know by that happening. I wish people would stop making the assumption that he juiced. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, considering there is zero evidence linking him or suggesting that he's used steroids.

[kujoking7]

Re: Name players that you think were clean during the steroid era

griffey, pujols, jeter, schilling

[SPTO]

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Albert didn't juice. His numbers have always been the same. He's the best hitter in the game, plain and simple.

Selig himself said Albert was tested, I think 6 times, last season. Albert's said he's been tested dozens of times over the past 5 years, so I wish people would stop acting like he's hiding it or something. Manny failed a test recently, testing works, superstars aren't protected, there's two facts we know by that happening. I wish people would stop making the assumption that he juiced. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, considering there is zero evidence linking him or suggesting that he's used steroids.

Two things:

1. A lot of guys came into the league and were productive right from the start "cough" McGwire and Canseco "cough" and we know what happened with them.

2. Seeing how there's allegations that the union has tipped off the players about drug testing and when to expect the tests I remain highly skeptical. Some people aren't as cavalier about these things the way Manny is.

[kujoking7]

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Some people aren't as cavalier about these things the way Manny is.

Manny didn't take steroids, he just wanted to get more fertile, which would help in the bedroom...

[NYJets]

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Albert didn't juice. His numbers have always been the same. He's the best hitter in the game, plain and simple.

Selig himself said Albert was tested, I think 6 times, last season. Albert's said he's been tested dozens of times over the past 5 years, so I wish people would stop acting like he's hiding it or something. Manny failed a test recently, testing works, superstars aren't protected, there's two facts we know by that happening. I wish people would stop making the assumption that he juiced. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, considering there is zero evidence linking him or suggesting that he's used steroids.

His numbers staying the same doesn't really mean anything. He came up in the heart of the steroid era. He could have been taking them his whole career. Plus, not every player has a huge jump in numbers like Bonds, or McGwire. A-Rod's numbers have been pretty consistent, so has Manny's.

We don't know if testing has really worked or not, it's never going to catch everybody. I'm sure Manny was tested a ton before he got caught, I doubt he just started right before his positive test. Also there has been a lot of talk about players being tipped off about testing, and things like that, so while stars aren't testing positive and having it be swept under the rug, that doesn't mean they aren't being protected.

I hope he's always been clean, and unless there's some strong evidence that he took them I'll think that he's clean, but I definitely wouldn't say I'm sure he's clean.