Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

[The C]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

The worst part is, this will never end.

MLBPA still won't allow blood testing, meaning that HGH is still running rampant. In ten years we will find out "clean" players from today were using H, and the whole cycle will begin again.

Damn MLB for letting this crap get to the point it did before they were forced to do something about it.

I thought it was common knowledge that HGH doesn't do **** for an athlete. The player is pretty much tossing money down a hole.

Also, steroids can make you more prone to injury ironically. So NFL players that roid out often do so to the quick end of their career.

Apples and oranges. Football players have a short career span because it is much more high impact than baseball players. Same reason for injuries.






All of this steroid stuff is going to be pretty much ****ed once Gene therapy gets off the ground. That will probably be nearly undetectable too.

[Cebby]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

All of this steroid stuff is going to be pretty much ****ed once Gene therapy gets off the ground. That will probably be nearly undetectable too.

Everything is going to be ****ed once gene therapy gets off the ground.

Personally, I'm going to raise an army of genome soldiers and take over a secret Alaskan military base that houses an experimental nuclear-equiped walking battle tank.

[remix]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

ortiz probably doesn't get by mariano in 2004 clean....

ortiz is probably not relevant at all actually..

[The C]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Everything is going to be ****ed once gene therapy gets off the ground.

Personally, I'm going to raise an army of genome soldiers and take over a secret Alaskan military base that houses an experimental nuclear-equiped walking battle tank.

Don't come back as an arm. That is just too much of a mind ****.

Watch out for nano technologies.

[CMH]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

ortiz probably doesn't get by mariano in 2004 clean....

I don't know about that. His biggest hit was the Game 4 hit and that was a blooper. It was the typical tie-me-up cutter that drops in against Mo.

[rubisco43]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

well... duh. nothing surprises me anymore about PED's and baseball.

[sportdan30]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Your 2004 World Series Champions, the St. Louis Cardinals.

Seriously, the Patriots cheated the St. Louis Rams in the Super Bowl by taping their practices. Now the Red Sox cheat the Cardinals by having two of their biggest sluggers on roids.

Is Boston the premeire cheating sports capital of the world?

[CMH]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Would everyone's head explode if Derek Jeter's name were on the list? Or just Tim McCarver's?

I think a load of baseball fans will truly feel disrespected by their heroes. It's one thing when a guy is huge and hitting bombs. We learn to accept it.

If a popular figure like Jeter, a guy who doesn't look like he needs steroids, were taking it, it probably will have a bigger affect. The media would talk about it non-stop. It would make small players even susceptible to scrutiny and that just opens the door for fans to question every statistic including a base hit.

[Chizzypoof]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Nice anonymous list. Everyone did it, let's move on.

I want to know who the leak is and what they are getting out of it. That would be a worthy breaking news flash.

[CMH]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Your 2004 World Series Champions, the St. Louis Cardinals.

Seriously, the Patriots cheated the St. Louis Rams in the Super Bowl by taping their practices. Now the Red Sox cheat the Cardinals by having two of their biggest sluggers on roids.

Is Boston the premeire cheating sports capital of the world?

So what happens when someone reveals that Pujols took roids in the minors?

[Blzer]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

So what happens when someone reveals that Pujols took roids in the minors?

... and is two years older than he actually says he is?

Oh, that would be a glorifying day.

[Sportsforever]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

... and is two years older than he actually says he is?

Oh, that would be a glorifying day.

Dude...why do you hate Pujols so much?

[Blzer]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Dude...why do you hate Pujols so much?

I don't. I just want him to be brought at Bonds' level if he so deserves it, and I think he's not really as much as everybody's thought him to be. I've thought this since he first came up to the majors before I was even exposed to major steroid talk.


EDIT:

He needs Pujols to be guilty so he can feel better about Barroid. Duh.

Isn't it obvious? Bonds fell, now he wants the next big name to fall. This way, Bonds isn't the only one cheating to get records.

There ya go.

[Skerik]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Dude...why do you hate Pujols so much?

He needs Pujols to be guilty so he can feel better about Barroid. Duh.

[Kearnzo]

Re: Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz on "The List"

Dude...why do you hate Pujols so much?

Isn't it obvious? Bonds fell, now he wants the next big name to fall. This way, Bonds isn't the only one cheating to get records.