cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

[griffy97]

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Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

[Karlos05]

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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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[Karlos05]

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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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[Karlos05]

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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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[dieselboy]

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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...

[dieselboy]

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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...

[dieselboy]

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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...

[griffy97]

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dieselboy said:
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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...



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Yeah...the Pirates wouldn't trade for Gwynn and Hoyt, either.

[griffy97]

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dieselboy said:
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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...



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Yeah...the Pirates wouldn't trade for Gwynn and Hoyt, either.

[griffy97]

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dieselboy said:
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Karlos05 said:
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griffy97 said:
Ah, what the heck. I'm in too.

Friday, July 25, 2003.

PRESS RELEASE

The Pittsburgh Pirates continued their housecleaning late this evening by dealing outfielder Brian Giles and catcher Jason Kendall to the San Diego Padres in exchange for outfielder Tony Gwynn and pitcher LaMarr Hoyt. By acquiring the long retired players, the Pirates could place them on the reserve list, freeing up much-needed capital to pursue Rule 5 and minor-league free agents in the off-season. Padres GM Kevin Towers was so dumb-founded by the request of Gwynn-Hoyt, he agreed to take on both Giles' and Kendall's contracts and send cash in return to the Pirates to assist the organization in Dave Littlefield's psychiatric expenses.

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Padres wouldn't take on Kendalls contract...



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Yeah...the Pirates wouldn't trade for Gwynn and Hoyt, either.

[Lewshus]

Re: cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

Now the Cubs need to get another pitcher. Cuz serve em up Shawn just ain't cuttin it.

[Lewshus]

Re: cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

Now the Cubs need to get another pitcher. Cuz serve em up Shawn just ain't cuttin it.

[Lewshus]

Re: cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

Now the Cubs need to get another pitcher. Cuz serve em up Shawn just ain't cuttin it.

[griffy97]

Re: cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

Okay...now that the inital shock of this "trade" has passed...

After the trade was announced, Littlefield and McClendon addressed the media and explained that the Bucs were freeing up as much money as possible so they can bring in as many players as possible. This includes being serious players in the free-agent market. My question is this: what free-agents do they plan to bring in? If you need quantity, what kind of quality will you get?

A guy like Jose Guillen comes to mind. He's only 27 and has stated he'd love to return to Pittsburgh. He seems to have matured. Shouldn't be that expensive.

I don't know who all is going to be available this winter. But, which direction they choose to go will be very interesting.

Now it's obvious why Littlefield extended McClendon's contract. The guy definitely has a game plan, that's for sure.

[griffy97]

Re: cubs get Lofton/ Ramirez

Okay...now that the inital shock of this "trade" has passed...

After the trade was announced, Littlefield and McClendon addressed the media and explained that the Bucs were freeing up as much money as possible so they can bring in as many players as possible. This includes being serious players in the free-agent market. My question is this: what free-agents do they plan to bring in? If you need quantity, what kind of quality will you get?

A guy like Jose Guillen comes to mind. He's only 27 and has stated he'd love to return to Pittsburgh. He seems to have matured. Shouldn't be that expensive.

I don't know who all is going to be available this winter. But, which direction they choose to go will be very interesting.

Now it's obvious why Littlefield extended McClendon's contract. The guy definitely has a game plan, that's for sure.