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  • MSRoble33
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1840
    #121
    Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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    YankeePride_YP said:
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    MSRoble33 said:
    Personally, I don't care if he's eligible or not, I don't think he's got the numbers to win ROY anyway... guys batting under .300 only got 16 homers, hell, Craig Wilson is putting up better numbers for the Buccos. The only DRASTIC difference is RBI's, and that's garbage, because look at Matsui's supporting cast and Craig Wilson's.

    NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING CRAIG SHOULD BE ROY, I'm merely making fact that his numbers are NOT that hard to replicate.

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    If you don't even know that there's an AL and NL ROY then maybe you shouldn't be in this conversation.

    That being said, I never even thought of Matsui as AL ROY. I like Baldelli a lot. He's helped change that Tampa Bay team. If he had a better supporting cast, we might be talking about an Ichiro type season (MVP and ROY). But, that won't happen because people still think Ichiro is the most influential player in the game and Tampa Bay sucks.

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    I'm aware of the separate ROY's... my comparison was only because Craig is a platoon player putting up similar numbers. If Matsui played anywhere OTHER than NY, he would be getting about the same attention as Hee Sop Choi.

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      • mgoblue
        Go Wings!
        • Jul 2002
        • 25477
        #122
        Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

        I have no idea if Matsui should win the ROY or not, but I know he should be eligible. Someone else all ready mentioned this, but Jackie Robinson, the person the award is named after, played in the Negro leagues for years before he came to the MLB. I bet (I don't know for sure) that the talent and quality of the Negro Leagues back then was better than the Japanese league now. Baseball's a different sport, some people need 5 years in the minors or in another league before they get their game to a major league level, don't penalize them for that.
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          • mgoblue
            Go Wings!
            • Jul 2002
            • 25477
            #123
            Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

            I have no idea if Matsui should win the ROY or not, but I know he should be eligible. Someone else all ready mentioned this, but Jackie Robinson, the person the award is named after, played in the Negro leagues for years before he came to the MLB. I bet (I don't know for sure) that the talent and quality of the Negro Leagues back then was better than the Japanese league now. Baseball's a different sport, some people need 5 years in the minors or in another league before they get their game to a major league level, don't penalize them for that.
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              • mgoblue
                Go Wings!
                • Jul 2002
                • 25477
                #124
                Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                I have no idea if Matsui should win the ROY or not, but I know he should be eligible. Someone else all ready mentioned this, but Jackie Robinson, the person the award is named after, played in the Negro leagues for years before he came to the MLB. I bet (I don't know for sure) that the talent and quality of the Negro Leagues back then was better than the Japanese league now. Baseball's a different sport, some people need 5 years in the minors or in another league before they get their game to a major league level, don't penalize them for that.
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                  • ssmith7289
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 300
                    #125
                    Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                    How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

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                      • ssmith7289
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 300
                        #126
                        Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                        How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

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                          • ssmith7289
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 300
                            #127
                            Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                            How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203
                                #128
                                Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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                                ssmith7289 said:
                                How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

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                                I don't know. You tell me.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                  • CMH
                                    Making you famous
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 26203
                                    #129
                                    Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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                                    ssmith7289 said:
                                    How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

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                                    I don't know. You tell me.
                                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                      • CMH
                                        Making you famous
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 26203
                                        #130
                                        Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

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                                        ssmith7289 said:
                                        How the hell could the AL ROY not be Rocco Baldelli???

                                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                        I don't know. You tell me.
                                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                                          • AI_Franchise03
                                            MVP
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 2168
                                            #131
                                            Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                                            Sorry not to include one important aspect of 'Zilla's game, which is coming trough in the clutch.
                                            Here is how the ROY stack up the last time I checked.

                                            Matsui
                                            .385 RISP
                                            .379 RISP 2 outs
                                            Gerut
                                            .344
                                            .327
                                            Teixeira
                                            .345
                                            .319
                                            Berroa
                                            .336
                                            .292

                                            And to the one who mentioned the RBIs; that is one of the stats the voters love.

                                            You make your own pick.
                                            " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                                            - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                                            The World Is At Your Feet.

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                                              • AI_Franchise03
                                                MVP
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 2168
                                                #132
                                                Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                                                Sorry not to include one important aspect of 'Zilla's game, which is coming trough in the clutch.
                                                Here is how the ROY stack up the last time I checked.

                                                Matsui
                                                .385 RISP
                                                .379 RISP 2 outs
                                                Gerut
                                                .344
                                                .327
                                                Teixeira
                                                .345
                                                .319
                                                Berroa
                                                .336
                                                .292

                                                And to the one who mentioned the RBIs; that is one of the stats the voters love.

                                                You make your own pick.
                                                " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                                                - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                                                The World Is At Your Feet.

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                                                  • AI_Franchise03
                                                    MVP
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 2168
                                                    #133
                                                    Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                                                    Sorry not to include one important aspect of 'Zilla's game, which is coming trough in the clutch.
                                                    Here is how the ROY stack up the last time I checked.

                                                    Matsui
                                                    .385 RISP
                                                    .379 RISP 2 outs
                                                    Gerut
                                                    .344
                                                    .327
                                                    Teixeira
                                                    .345
                                                    .319
                                                    Berroa
                                                    .336
                                                    .292

                                                    And to the one who mentioned the RBIs; that is one of the stats the voters love.

                                                    You make your own pick.
                                                    " I look at him and it's getting to the point where it's just scaring me. He looks younger but he doesn't carry himself in a younger manner. He's impressive, and I'm glad we drafted him. "
                                                    - Lavar Arrington on his new Redskins teammate Sean Taylor.

                                                    The World Is At Your Feet.

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                                                      • 7Words
                                                        MVP
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 697
                                                        #134
                                                        Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                                                        if Matsui win ROY it'll be the 2nd time in last few years that an Indians player has been screwed out of ROY by a "rookie"

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                                                          • 7Words
                                                            MVP
                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                            • 697
                                                            #135
                                                            Re: What is all the BS I\'m hearing about Matsui not elligible for ROY?

                                                            if Matsui win ROY it'll be the 2nd time in last few years that an Indians player has been screwed out of ROY by a "rookie"

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