Felix Hernandez

[rsox]

Re: Felix Hernandez

No, it's not true.

You're wrong.

Generalizing a whole group of fans is idiotic at best.

You've never been to a Raider game have you?....

[Claymaker52]

Re: Felix Hernandez

I think Felix is worth more than that.

One guarantee and two probables makes me cringe for Seattle. I think if they move Hernandez, they need guaranteed good players. Not saying the guys should be better than Felix, but they should be more than serviceable players.

I'm excited for ManBan and Montero but I won't believe the hype till they deal with it.


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Well then add Brett Gardiner and Ivan Nova to the deal, and while we're at it those punks can also give us Soriano back as well, and we'll also send them Aardsma as a throw in. He gives me a heart attack and a few grey hairs whenever he enters the game in the 9th.

[Dog]

Yeah I think I've butchered Haladay's and Brown's names like 3 or 4 different ways so far. That is pretty impressive to spell a name wrong 3 or 4 different ways, without getting lucky and spelling it right at least once. I'm terribad when it comes to names.

Trust me it is not only you who spells Domonic's name wrong

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[BatsareBugs]

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If Kevin Towers had Felix Hernandez to trade, he'd probably settle for a wild left-handed starter who ultimate barely makes it as a reliever in AAA, a #3 starter who turns out to be the best player of the group, a middle reliever, and an over-age Single-A starter.

In any case, Felix Hernandez currently is one of the top starting pitchers in baseball and at 24/25 has a lot of great years ahead of him. Unless the Mariners absolutely have to trade him, all these considered he'd net more than the Johan Santana, Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, or Jake Peavy trades of recent years. It'll be interesting what offers Seattle gets if they do put him on the market.

[Coug00]

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I just don't see Felix being traded. Through all the losing, the guy hasn't stopped expressing his love for Seattle and wanting to retire with his childhood team. He's a smart enough guy to understand this is going to take time and he said he's willing to wait for the stockpiling of talent to pay off (he only turns 25 tomorrow). Anyone with half a brain is able to see the success Jack Z has had in his two drafts in Seattle and the success the M's have had the last 6-7 years with international signings. They could easily be contending with young talent by the time his contract expires.

Of course players backtrack on these things all the time, but I get a different feeling with Felix. We'll see.

[lonewolf371]

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Manny Benualos, Robinson Cano, and Jesus Montaro, sounds about right. But man, it would be hard to part with Felix in any trade.

That would be seriously undervaluing Felix. He's worth the Royals' whole farm system, or something like Bryce Harper, Stephen Strasburg, and Ryan Zimmerman with how cost-controlled he is.

[kingkilla56]

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@lonewolf371...nah

[lonewolf371]

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@kingkilla56...yaw

[CMH]

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There's no way Washington would give up Strasburg for Hernandez. That's too much a push of potential to even look into that type of deal. In fact, I'd say Washington wouldn't even move Zimmerman to acquire Hernandez. The deal just doesn't make sense for Washington.

I do think that kind of deal is beyond the ideal asking price for Hernandez. But, I think the Mariners, if they ever entertained the thought of trading Hernandez, should definitely reach for the stars.

[DrJones]

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There's no way Washington would give up Strasburg for Hernandez. That's too much a push of potential to even look into that type of deal.

Really? What are the odds of Strasburg staying healthy enough to throw 190+ innings in 5 different seasons? An ace in the hand is worth two on the 60-day DL.

[CMH]

Really? What are the odds of Strasburg staying healthy enough to throw 190+ innings in 5 different seasons? An ace in the hand is worth two on the 60-day DL.

That should be the same question Seattle would have to ask itself.

I made my comment without also pointing out that Seattle wouldn't make that trade. At least I don't see why they would. Well maybe for Zimmerman, but I seriously doubt Washington would trade Zimmerman for Hernandez in a straight up deal let alone adding two A prospects.

As for Strasburg straight up for Hernandez, Washington would be getting the better pitcher now, but their brass likely believes Strasburg will be the better pitcher later.

And to add to that, there is no proof that Strasburg will be healthy, but neither is there for Hernandez. To me, trading on fear is a terrible mistake.

It's far too early in Strasburg's career to think that this one injury will continue to linger or seriously derail his potential.

If he becomes the pitcher he can be (and he was a pretty damn good one as a rookie) what advantage does Washington have in making that deal?

I should add that this is based on my own thinking. I dont expect all 30 GMs to think alike or one to think like me. And that's overlooking the hundred million GMs that watch the game.

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[OSUFan_88]

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That would be seriously undervaluing Felix. He's worth the Royals' whole farm system, or something like Bryce Harper, Stephen Strasburg, and Ryan Zimmerman with how cost-controlled he is.

lol

Whatever you choose to believe. Strasburg and Zimmerman for Felix...lol

[DrJones]

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That should be the same question Seattle would have to ask itself.

I made my comment without also pointing out that Seattle wouldn't make that trade. At least I don't see why they would. Well maybe for Zimmerman, but I seriously doubt Washington would trade Zimmerman for Hernandez in a straight up deal let alone adding two A prospects.

As for Strasburg straight up for Hernandez, Washington would be getting the better pitcher now, but their brass likely believes Strasburg will be the better pitcher later.

And to add to that, there is no proof that Strasburg will be healthy, but neither is there for Hernandez. To me, trading on fear is a terrible mistake.

It's far too early in Strasburg's career to think that this one injury will continue to linger or seriously derail his potential.

If he becomes the pitcher he can be (and he was a pretty damn good one as a rookie) what advantage does Washington have in making that deal?

I should add that this is based on my own thinking. I dont expect all 30 GMs to think alike or one to think like me. And that's overlooking the hundred million GMs that watch the game.

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I'm playing the odds. A lot of promising pitchers' careers are derailed by injury, and the injuries tend to come when they're young. Felix has proven to be durable through age 25 while putting up back-to-back Cy Young quality seasons in the tougher league. Strasburg blew out his elbow after 68 Major League innings. TJ surgery doesn't necessarily mean doom (Carpenter, Smoltz, et al), but it's not exactly a promising sign, either. Strasburg might have a slightly higher ceiling than Hernandez, but there's a very real chance he won't reach it, while Felix already has.

I certainly hope Strasburg comes back and has a dominant career. I'd certainly love to see him in person. But if given the choice between Hernandez and Strasburg over the next 10 years, I have no doubt that all 30 GMs would take Felix. It's just far more likely that Felix is going to provide more quality innings over the next decade.

[CMH]

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Certainly get that point. I think every GM definitely says they want Hernandez over Strasburg. My hang up is that what you want is different than what you do.

Not the best analogy but I see Strasburg for Hernandez almost like Jeter for Pujols.

A video game trade you make but is it a real world trade they make?

[DrJones]

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Certainly get that point. I think every GM definitely says they want Hernandez over Strasburg. My hang up is that what you want is different than what you do.

Not the best analogy but I see Strasburg for Hernandez almost like Jeter for Pujols.

A video game trade you make but is it a real world trade they make?

Does Strasburg really mean that much to the Nationals organization and fanbase? I'd have to believe 90% of Washington fans would trade Strasburg straight up for Felix.