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  • NYJets
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    • Jul 2002
    • 18637

    #466
    Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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    joeboo said:
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    NYJets37 said:
    How can you not think Pedro hit him on purpose? It wasn't a fastball moving in that moved to far in like most times when a batter gets hit. It was a straight fastball, thrown behind him. Pedro doesn't throw a straight fastball, and he defiently doesn't miss that much.

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    I've gone back and forth on this. I agree with what you're saying, but I also think Pedro had to be an idiot to bean Garcia in that situation. If he wanted to send a message he should've done it at another time. In a must win game for Boston (IMO), he hit Garcia and loaded the bases with no outs. BOS was down by 1 at the time. That's a terrible time to send a message and hit someone. However, I do agree with what you said. He is never that wild....

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    I agree with that, but I also don't think Pedro is all that smart when it comes to this. He did numerous things in this game, and in others that could have hurt his team, and got him ejected. I think Pedro has trouble thinking things through in the heat of the battle. Just a guess though from what I've seen from him.
    Originally posted by Jay Bilas
    The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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    • Lex
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      • Jun 2003
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      #467
      Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

      Im not questioning whether he hit him on purpose or not. Rather Im pointing out that it is possible that it was an accident. I acknowledge that it was likely Pedro was trying to send a message. However, I feel the larger issue is all the whining and crying and fingerpointing taking place in the New York camp is hypocritical. Its understandable for Joe Torre to be biased but as long as hes going to be the media, ie Fox needs to quit characterizing Torre as the classy, good guy. Chances are that Pedro was throwing at him but with Clemens on the other side all bets are off.

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      • Lex
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        • Jun 2003
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        #468
        Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

        Im not questioning whether he hit him on purpose or not. Rather Im pointing out that it is possible that it was an accident. I acknowledge that it was likely Pedro was trying to send a message. However, I feel the larger issue is all the whining and crying and fingerpointing taking place in the New York camp is hypocritical. Its understandable for Joe Torre to be biased but as long as hes going to be the media, ie Fox needs to quit characterizing Torre as the classy, good guy. Chances are that Pedro was throwing at him but with Clemens on the other side all bets are off.

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        • Lex
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          • Jun 2003
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          #469
          Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

          Im not questioning whether he hit him on purpose or not. Rather Im pointing out that it is possible that it was an accident. I acknowledge that it was likely Pedro was trying to send a message. However, I feel the larger issue is all the whining and crying and fingerpointing taking place in the New York camp is hypocritical. Its understandable for Joe Torre to be biased but as long as hes going to be the media, ie Fox needs to quit characterizing Torre as the classy, good guy. Chances are that Pedro was throwing at him but with Clemens on the other side all bets are off.

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          • snepp
            We'll waste him too.
            • Apr 2003
            • 10007

            #470
            Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

            My .02


            If someone on the Yankees (besides a 72 year old man) had some nuts they would have charged Pedro instead...

            My props to Zim for doing what one of the players should have done in his place.

            Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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            • snepp
              We'll waste him too.
              • Apr 2003
              • 10007

              #471
              Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

              My .02


              If someone on the Yankees (besides a 72 year old man) had some nuts they would have charged Pedro instead...

              My props to Zim for doing what one of the players should have done in his place.

              Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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              • snepp
                We'll waste him too.
                • Apr 2003
                • 10007

                #472
                Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

                My .02


                If someone on the Yankees (besides a 72 year old man) had some nuts they would have charged Pedro instead...

                My props to Zim for doing what one of the players should have done in his place.

                Member of The OS Baseball Rocket Scientists Association

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                • athletics_fan
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                  • Apr 2003
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                  #473
                  Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

                  See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                  Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                  Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                  I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                  Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.

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                  • athletics_fan
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                    • Apr 2003
                    • 503

                    #474
                    Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

                    See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                    Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                    Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                    I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                    Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.

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                    • athletics_fan
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 503

                      #475
                      Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

                      See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                      Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                      Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                      I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                      Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.

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                      • NYJets
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 18637

                        #476
                        Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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                        athletics_fan said:
                        See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                        Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                        Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                        I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                        Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.



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                        No one is flaming you for not liking Clemens, or thinking he is a headhunter. You are getting flamed for letting your personal hatred of someone, cloud your judgement of something that should be pretty obvious.
                        Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                        The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                        • NYJets
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                          #477
                          Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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                          athletics_fan said:
                          See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                          Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                          Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                          I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                          Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.



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                          No one is flaming you for not liking Clemens, or thinking he is a headhunter. You are getting flamed for letting your personal hatred of someone, cloud your judgement of something that should be pretty obvious.
                          Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                          The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                          • NYJets
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 18637

                            #478
                            Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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                            athletics_fan said:
                            See, this is exactly why I hate posting about the Yankees.

                            Once you establish your OPINION on Roger Clemens and the rest of the Yankees, Yankee nation just piles on you without mercy.

                            Come on. I certainly do believe that in order to be a Yankee fan, you have to be ready at all costs to defend Clemens and his actions.

                            I knew once I posted my OPINION on Clemens, I'd get flamed.

                            Oh well..Yankee fans are something else.



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                            No one is flaming you for not liking Clemens, or thinking he is a headhunter. You are getting flamed for letting your personal hatred of someone, cloud your judgement of something that should be pretty obvious.
                            Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                            The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                            • NYJets
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 18637

                              #479
                              Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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                              Lex said:
                              Im not questioning whether he hit him on purpose or not. Rather Im pointing out that it is possible that it was an accident. I acknowledge that it was likely Pedro was trying to send a message. However, I feel the larger issue is all the whining and crying and fingerpointing taking place in the New York camp is hypocritical. Its understandable for Joe Torre to be biased but as long as hes going to be the media, ie Fox needs to quit characterizing Torre as the classy, good guy. Chances are that Pedro was throwing at him but with Clemens on the other side all bets are off.

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                              Yea your right, I do agree with that. Torre used to complain about Clemens hitting people before he became a Yankee too.

                              And I can't believe some of you guys saying the Yankees should have attacked Pedro. This is the playoffs, not the regular season. Every game is so important. You don't risk suspensions and ejections to take a shot at someone. They might Kick Pedro's ***, and be pretty happy about it. And then when the Red Sox are playing in the World Series because of key Yankees being ejected, they'll be the ones laughing.
                              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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                              • NYJets
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 18637

                                #480
                                Re: Yankees vs Redsox Thread

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                                Lex said:
                                Im not questioning whether he hit him on purpose or not. Rather Im pointing out that it is possible that it was an accident. I acknowledge that it was likely Pedro was trying to send a message. However, I feel the larger issue is all the whining and crying and fingerpointing taking place in the New York camp is hypocritical. Its understandable for Joe Torre to be biased but as long as hes going to be the media, ie Fox needs to quit characterizing Torre as the classy, good guy. Chances are that Pedro was throwing at him but with Clemens on the other side all bets are off.

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                                Yea your right, I do agree with that. Torre used to complain about Clemens hitting people before he became a Yankee too.

                                And I can't believe some of you guys saying the Yankees should have attacked Pedro. This is the playoffs, not the regular season. Every game is so important. You don't risk suspensions and ejections to take a shot at someone. They might Kick Pedro's ***, and be pretty happy about it. And then when the Red Sox are playing in the World Series because of key Yankees being ejected, they'll be the ones laughing.
                                Originally posted by Jay Bilas
                                The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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