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  • UofLCards
    Pro
    • May 2003
    • 792

    #361
    Re: The Fan!!!!!!

    Anyone else think that this little incident will rally the Cubs?

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    • MuffinMcFluffin
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 4215

      #362
      Re: The Fan!!!!!!

      Okay, I know that he is mainly a reason for their loss, but remember this...

      The umpire would have called the batter out if he felt that ball was still a "live ball". What I mean by "live ball" is if nobody was there and didn't touch that ball, and if you saw where the ball landed (out-of-play or on the field), then that will determine whether a fan would really be allowed to touch a ball.

      So, obviously the umpire (and myself) thought that the ball, if not touched by anybody, would've hit the railing, or at least the concrete top of the wall, which is not on the field, therefore out-of-play territory, so the fan, although a loser and a Cubs fan at the same time, attempted to catch the ball, he has every right to do so without getting kicked out of the stadium.

      If the umpire thought the ball was going to stay on the field if it hadn't made contact with anybody, he would've called the batter out instantly, and the fan would be removed from the ballpark.


      So, if there's someone to blame, you would have to blame the umpire... but ONLY blame him if you think that ball wasn't heading out of play, and DON'T blame him for calling it a foul ball because a fan touched it.

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      • MuffinMcFluffin
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 4215

        #363
        Re: The Fan!!!!!!

        Okay, I know that he is mainly a reason for their loss, but remember this...

        The umpire would have called the batter out if he felt that ball was still a "live ball". What I mean by "live ball" is if nobody was there and didn't touch that ball, and if you saw where the ball landed (out-of-play or on the field), then that will determine whether a fan would really be allowed to touch a ball.

        So, obviously the umpire (and myself) thought that the ball, if not touched by anybody, would've hit the railing, or at least the concrete top of the wall, which is not on the field, therefore out-of-play territory, so the fan, although a loser and a Cubs fan at the same time, attempted to catch the ball, he has every right to do so without getting kicked out of the stadium.

        If the umpire thought the ball was going to stay on the field if it hadn't made contact with anybody, he would've called the batter out instantly, and the fan would be removed from the ballpark.


        So, if there's someone to blame, you would have to blame the umpire... but ONLY blame him if you think that ball wasn't heading out of play, and DON'T blame him for calling it a foul ball because a fan touched it.

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        • MuffinMcFluffin
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 4215

          #364
          Re: The Fan!!!!!!

          Okay, I know that he is mainly a reason for their loss, but remember this...

          The umpire would have called the batter out if he felt that ball was still a "live ball". What I mean by "live ball" is if nobody was there and didn't touch that ball, and if you saw where the ball landed (out-of-play or on the field), then that will determine whether a fan would really be allowed to touch a ball.

          So, obviously the umpire (and myself) thought that the ball, if not touched by anybody, would've hit the railing, or at least the concrete top of the wall, which is not on the field, therefore out-of-play territory, so the fan, although a loser and a Cubs fan at the same time, attempted to catch the ball, he has every right to do so without getting kicked out of the stadium.

          If the umpire thought the ball was going to stay on the field if it hadn't made contact with anybody, he would've called the batter out instantly, and the fan would be removed from the ballpark.


          So, if there's someone to blame, you would have to blame the umpire... but ONLY blame him if you think that ball wasn't heading out of play, and DON'T blame him for calling it a foul ball because a fan touched it.

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          • athletics_fan
            Pro
            • Apr 2003
            • 503

            #365
            Re: The Fan!!!!!!

            Personally, I believe ANY person wishing physical harm on a fan b/c of interference is classless.

            Sure, the fan ruined the potential out, but still..

            PHYSICAL HARM?!?!

            Cubs fans have reached a new low. This fan was just wanting what the 54785625785 other fans who attend games want - a souvenir, a piece of memoribilia. Now? He gets threats by other Cub fans..beer thrown onto him...all for trying to do what nearly every baseball fan dreams of - catching a foul ball.

            Cubs fans, you have reached a new low. I hope offering physical harm to another fellow fan is something you're proud of.




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            • athletics_fan
              Pro
              • Apr 2003
              • 503

              #366
              Re: The Fan!!!!!!

              Personally, I believe ANY person wishing physical harm on a fan b/c of interference is classless.

              Sure, the fan ruined the potential out, but still..

              PHYSICAL HARM?!?!

              Cubs fans have reached a new low. This fan was just wanting what the 54785625785 other fans who attend games want - a souvenir, a piece of memoribilia. Now? He gets threats by other Cub fans..beer thrown onto him...all for trying to do what nearly every baseball fan dreams of - catching a foul ball.

              Cubs fans, you have reached a new low. I hope offering physical harm to another fellow fan is something you're proud of.




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              • athletics_fan
                Pro
                • Apr 2003
                • 503

                #367
                Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                Personally, I believe ANY person wishing physical harm on a fan b/c of interference is classless.

                Sure, the fan ruined the potential out, but still..

                PHYSICAL HARM?!?!

                Cubs fans have reached a new low. This fan was just wanting what the 54785625785 other fans who attend games want - a souvenir, a piece of memoribilia. Now? He gets threats by other Cub fans..beer thrown onto him...all for trying to do what nearly every baseball fan dreams of - catching a foul ball.

                Cubs fans, you have reached a new low. I hope offering physical harm to another fellow fan is something you're proud of.




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                • Goaty
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 364

                  #368
                  Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  andayaman said:
                  I once heard on the radio a few White Sox fans who threatened bodily harm on Joan Cusak just because Comiskey Park was renamed U.S. Cellular field. What kind of sense does that make?

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  And I once heard on the radio that there are alligators in the sewers in New York from kids flushing them down the toilet.

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                  • Goaty
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 364

                    #369
                    Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    andayaman said:
                    I once heard on the radio a few White Sox fans who threatened bodily harm on Joan Cusak just because Comiskey Park was renamed U.S. Cellular field. What kind of sense does that make?

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    And I once heard on the radio that there are alligators in the sewers in New York from kids flushing them down the toilet.

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                    • Goaty
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 364

                      #370
                      Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      andayaman said:
                      I once heard on the radio a few White Sox fans who threatened bodily harm on Joan Cusak just because Comiskey Park was renamed U.S. Cellular field. What kind of sense does that make?

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      And I once heard on the radio that there are alligators in the sewers in New York from kids flushing them down the toilet.

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                      • ChicagoNVA
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1635

                        #371
                        Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                        Excerpt from SI.com article:


                        Alou slammed his glove in anger, and many fans in the crowd of 39,577 booed and began to pelt the man with debris.

                        "The ball was in the stands, the umpire saw that," McKeon said. "I didn't think there was any interference. I don't think that was the turning point in the game."

                        Chicago fire fighter Pat Looney was seated next to the fan, whose identity was not released, and said there was no misconduct.

                        "It looked like it was out of play. Don't blame him," Looney said. "I should've pushed him out of the way. If I saw Alou coming, I would have.

                        "He wasn't leaning over. He was behind the rail, he didn't know Alou was coming," he said. "It looks like I touched the ball, but I didn't I got 50 hate calls already. The firehouse where I work is being bombarded."


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                        • ChicagoNVA
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1635

                          #372
                          Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                          Excerpt from SI.com article:


                          Alou slammed his glove in anger, and many fans in the crowd of 39,577 booed and began to pelt the man with debris.

                          "The ball was in the stands, the umpire saw that," McKeon said. "I didn't think there was any interference. I don't think that was the turning point in the game."

                          Chicago fire fighter Pat Looney was seated next to the fan, whose identity was not released, and said there was no misconduct.

                          "It looked like it was out of play. Don't blame him," Looney said. "I should've pushed him out of the way. If I saw Alou coming, I would have.

                          "He wasn't leaning over. He was behind the rail, he didn't know Alou was coming," he said. "It looks like I touched the ball, but I didn't I got 50 hate calls already. The firehouse where I work is being bombarded."


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                          • ChicagoNVA
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 1635

                            #373
                            Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                            Excerpt from SI.com article:


                            Alou slammed his glove in anger, and many fans in the crowd of 39,577 booed and began to pelt the man with debris.

                            "The ball was in the stands, the umpire saw that," McKeon said. "I didn't think there was any interference. I don't think that was the turning point in the game."

                            Chicago fire fighter Pat Looney was seated next to the fan, whose identity was not released, and said there was no misconduct.

                            "It looked like it was out of play. Don't blame him," Looney said. "I should've pushed him out of the way. If I saw Alou coming, I would have.

                            "He wasn't leaning over. He was behind the rail, he didn't know Alou was coming," he said. "It looks like I touched the ball, but I didn't I got 50 hate calls already. The firehouse where I work is being bombarded."


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                            • Crown42Royal
                              Undisputed King Of Sports
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 775

                              #374
                              Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              athletics_fan said:
                              Personally, I believe ANY person wishing physical harm on a fan b/c of interference is classless.

                              Sure, the fan ruined the potential out, but still..

                              PHYSICAL HARM?!?!

                              Cubs fans have reached a new low. This fan was just wanting what the 54785625785 other fans who attend games want - a souvenir, a piece of memoribilia. Now? He gets threats by other Cub fans..beer thrown onto him...all for trying to do what nearly every baseball fan dreams of - catching a foul ball.

                              Cubs fans, you have reached a new low. I hope offering physical harm to another fellow fan is something you're proud of.






                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Please don't generalize all Cubs fans. Just cause there are a few on here who can't handle the unpredictable, doesn't mean we're all this way.

                              That being said, game 6 is over. Game 7 is next. Go Cubs!
                              Life is a sport, so play hard!

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                              • Crown42Royal
                                Undisputed King Of Sports
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 775

                                #375
                                Re: The Fan!!!!!!

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                athletics_fan said:
                                Personally, I believe ANY person wishing physical harm on a fan b/c of interference is classless.

                                Sure, the fan ruined the potential out, but still..

                                PHYSICAL HARM?!?!

                                Cubs fans have reached a new low. This fan was just wanting what the 54785625785 other fans who attend games want - a souvenir, a piece of memoribilia. Now? He gets threats by other Cub fans..beer thrown onto him...all for trying to do what nearly every baseball fan dreams of - catching a foul ball.

                                Cubs fans, you have reached a new low. I hope offering physical harm to another fellow fan is something you're proud of.






                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Please don't generalize all Cubs fans. Just cause there are a few on here who can't handle the unpredictable, doesn't mean we're all this way.

                                That being said, game 6 is over. Game 7 is next. Go Cubs!
                                Life is a sport, so play hard!

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