Re: Yankees/Red Sox Game 7 Thread
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AI_Franchise03 said:
I know you're an O's fan, but I was asking Skyboxer.
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Heh, sorry. But yeah, I'm a die hard O's fan... and I guess that can be a bad thing too these days
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BTW, I did ask you this question
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You don't see it as Pedro not getting it done, yet again? Now that I reflect a little on it, I feel like taking out Varitek was the wrong move. But that's it.
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The way i saw it was that Pedro WAS getting it done, but he was gassed IMO. He was basically unhittable until that inning (besides the two Giambi HR's), and even though he was still hitting low 90's on the gun, he left a lot of pitches over the plate... this was before Matsui. When Grady went out, I thought FOR SURE that Pedro would be taken out and IMO that would have been the right move. But Pedro shook him off and said that he wanted to stay in. THAT'S what I expected from Pedro b/c he's a gamer and wants the ball in his hands. But as a manager in the postseason, you DO manage slightly differently than you do during the regular season. Even though Pedro shook him off, Grady's the freakin' manager. This isn't game 45 of the regular season, it's game 7!!!! He should know that his bullpen (which has been criticized ALL season long) has been dominating this postseason. You have Matsui (L), Posada (S), and Giambi (L) coming up. No way you leave Pedro in for those 3 hitters right after Jeter and Williams gets on base and his pitch count over 100. Pedro now is not the Pedro of 4-5 years ago. I think batters hit .300+ against Pedro after 110 pitches or so. All these things IMO, EASILY pointed to Pedro being pulled. (pitch #115 was Bernie's single) Whew! Long winded answer
Taking Varitek out was a bad move IMO as well. I also thought taking Ortiz out was a bad move too. But since neither guys were driven in, it was a wash.
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AI_Franchise03 said:
I know you're an O's fan, but I was asking Skyboxer.
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Heh, sorry. But yeah, I'm a die hard O's fan... and I guess that can be a bad thing too these days
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BTW, I did ask you this question
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You don't see it as Pedro not getting it done, yet again? Now that I reflect a little on it, I feel like taking out Varitek was the wrong move. But that's it.
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The way i saw it was that Pedro WAS getting it done, but he was gassed IMO. He was basically unhittable until that inning (besides the two Giambi HR's), and even though he was still hitting low 90's on the gun, he left a lot of pitches over the plate... this was before Matsui. When Grady went out, I thought FOR SURE that Pedro would be taken out and IMO that would have been the right move. But Pedro shook him off and said that he wanted to stay in. THAT'S what I expected from Pedro b/c he's a gamer and wants the ball in his hands. But as a manager in the postseason, you DO manage slightly differently than you do during the regular season. Even though Pedro shook him off, Grady's the freakin' manager. This isn't game 45 of the regular season, it's game 7!!!! He should know that his bullpen (which has been criticized ALL season long) has been dominating this postseason. You have Matsui (L), Posada (S), and Giambi (L) coming up. No way you leave Pedro in for those 3 hitters right after Jeter and Williams gets on base and his pitch count over 100. Pedro now is not the Pedro of 4-5 years ago. I think batters hit .300+ against Pedro after 110 pitches or so. All these things IMO, EASILY pointed to Pedro being pulled. (pitch #115 was Bernie's single) Whew! Long winded answer
Taking Varitek out was a bad move IMO as well. I also thought taking Ortiz out was a bad move too. But since neither guys were driven in, it was a wash.
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