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  • 1Rose
    Banned
    • Jun 2011
    • 2562

    #331
    Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

    Originally posted by roadman
    Heck, Kruk just said something about the presser Braun had.

    How did he not gain any weight? How did his times going from home to first and first to third stay the same? How come he hit the ball the same distance as before?

    It's clear you and I disagree on where we stand on this, so, I'll just agree to disagree at this stage.

    I do respect your opinion, though.
    I can see the view from both angles. I guess in this case I'm a glass half empty guy rather than a glass half full. Just with the lack explanation given, it's hard for me to argue for his innoncence, no matter how bad I want to believe he is as a baseball fan.

    To counteract you're argument, high testosterone doesn't always equate to massive size and speed. It also, depending on the compound he was using, if he was, it can also be used specifically for muscle recovery and leaning out. So he could have gotten bigger but lost fat, which would be less noticeable. When people think testosterone they automatically think steroids and big heads which isn't the case at all.

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    • ryan36
      7 dirty words...
      • Feb 2003
      • 10139

      #332
      Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

      I would like to point out a "sealed urine sample" means taping an in initialed label to the lid of the bottle or vial. That's all. And then a ziploc bag with the same .

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      • roadman
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #333
        Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

        Originally posted by 1Rose
        I can see the view from both angles. I guess in this case I'm a glass half empty guy rather than a glass half full. Just with the lack explanation given, it's hard for me to argue for his innoncence, no matter how bad I want to believe he is as a baseball fan.

        To counteract you're argument, high testosterone doesn't always equate to massive size and speed. It also, depending on the compound he was using, if he was, it can also be used specifically for muscle recovery and leaning out. So he could have gotten bigger but lost fat, which would be less noticeable. When people think testosterone they automatically think steroids and big heads which isn't the case at all.
        It's ok, Rose, I know I'm in the minority of the opinions, but like I said, I defended Braun since day 1 and I'm not about to waver in my opinion, now.

        I understand the other side of the coin and respect people who are on that side and I can only hope the feeling is mutual.

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        • Mjphillips
          MVP
          • Feb 2005
          • 1153

          #334
          Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

          Originally posted by Dayman
          Yes, I'm sure MLB loves that their drug system was beaten in such a public fashion...
          You say that like the MLB really cares. They got off the hook. Now they can say "we vehemently disagree with the decision" while Braun plays and they keep making money. LOL i can't believe anyone is sticking up for the MLB. Who is gonna slap the MLB on the wrist for screwing this up? No one!!!! It's a joke.
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          • bkrich83
            Has Been
            • Jul 2002
            • 71582

            #335
            Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

            He never tested positive in the past, his performance has remained steady over his career, he didn't undergo any noticeable physical or physiological changes, so the notion he's clean and there was something wrong with the sample is not outrageous.

            If the test was improperly handled, that's it case close, the sample becomes as questionable as his innocence, and thus must be thrown out.

            I don't know if he's guilty or innocent, but the appeal was needed.
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            • 1Rose
              Banned
              • Jun 2011
              • 2562

              #336
              Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

              Originally posted by roadman
              It's ok, Rose, I know I'm in the minority of the opinions, but like I said, I defended Braun since day 1 and I'm not about to waver in my opinion, now.

              I understand the other side of the coin and respect people who are on that side and I can only hope the feeling is mutual.
              Of course, and I respect that. I'm definitely not trying to change anyone's opinion ,and in a situation like this, no one is really right or wrong, we just interpret the information differently.

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              • rdub78
                Banned
                • Sep 2011
                • 419

                #337
                Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                Originally posted by ryan36
                I would like to point out a "sealed urine sample" means taping an in initialed label to the lid of the bottle or vial. That's all. And then a ziploc bag with the same .
                The FedEx package that arrived in the Montreal laboratory was sealed three times with tamper-proof seals -- one on the box, one on a plastic bag inside the box, and again on the vial that contained the urine.

                This is just not simply taped with scotch tape, it is a special tamper proof seal.
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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52920

                  #338
                  Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                  I can't believe Ryan Braun used the word "haters" today.

                  ****ing stupid.

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                  • BatsareBugs
                    LVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12553

                    #339
                    Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                    Yeah, he should've used abhorers or something like that.

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                    • Bellsprout
                      Hard Times.
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 25652

                      #340
                      Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                      More Trenni:
                      It seems Dino Laurenzi, the collector/courier at the center of the #Braun case, knew this was coming. House empty, snow packed drive.
                      This story just keeps getting weirder. Maybe MLB had him killed. This is some Sopranoes ****.
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                      A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                      • ryan36
                        7 dirty words...
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 10139

                        #341
                        Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                        So does this mean the "herpaderp defense" is untrue?

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                        • rdub78
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 419

                          #342
                          Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                          The herpes defense was hearsay wasnt it?

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                          • Bellsprout
                            Hard Times.
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 25652

                            #343
                            Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                            Originally posted by rdub78
                            The herpes defense was hearsay wasnt it?
                            Yup. Just a rumor started by Brewers fans hoping to find an excuse that would set him free.
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                            I had this conversation today, and I'm curious as to what you guys have to say on it...

                            Would Braun's image and reputation been better off if he had just accepted the suspension and said he took something? He still may not have taken something, but I feel like there's more anger now that he beat the charges than there would be if he had just taken the suspension.
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                            Originally posted by l3ulvl
                            A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                            • areobee401
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 16771

                              #344
                              Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                              Originally posted by Dayman
                              Yup. Just a rumor started by Brewers fans hoping to find an excuse that would set him free.
                              ----

                              I had this conversation today, and I'm curious as to what you guys have to say on it...

                              Would Braun's image and reputation been better off if he had just accepted the suspension and said he took something? He still may not have taken something, but I feel like there's more anger now that he beat the charges than there would be if he had just taken the suspension.
                              Steroid use in baseball has left me jaded on the issue. I'm at the point where if someone tested positive I just shrug my shoulders. My opinion of Braun hasn't swayed because of this latest episode. If anything my respect for him as grown due to the lengths he has gone to clear his name.
                              Last edited by areobee401; 02-24-2012, 08:46 PM.
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                              • rdub78
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 419

                                #345
                                Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                                Watch Bigger, Stronger, Faster. Great documentary on steroids.

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