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  • Bellsprout
    Hard Times.
    • Oct 2009
    • 25652

    #316
    Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

    Originally posted by Mjphillips
    I really believe that the MLB FIXED this situation after Braun got caught. They couldn't have their MVP sitting out 50 games! He definitely deserved the award considering that he outperformed all of the other roid users.

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    • NDAlum
      ND
      • Jun 2010
      • 11453

      #317
      Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

      Second thoughts...still ridiculous

      Why even have testing?
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      • slickdtc
        Grayscale
        • Aug 2004
        • 17125

        #318
        Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

        I guess to say, "We're trying!"

        Kind of how they outlawed it, but didn't test for it for so long. They did all they could!!! Pffft.
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        • Doormat
          The Champ Is Here
          • Mar 2009
          • 2338

          #319
          Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

          I gotta say, he's a good speaker..
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          • CMH
            Making you famous
            • Oct 2002
            • 26203

            #320
            Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

            Anyone know if Braun had been tested previously?

            I'm sure his other tests came back negative for high testosterone levels, but I haven't seen any mention of it.

            Was he tested prior? How long prior? Was he tested after? How long after?
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            • Bellsprout
              Hard Times.
              • Oct 2009
              • 25652

              #321
              Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

              Originally posted by CMH
              Anyone know if Braun had been tested previously?

              I'm sure his other tests came back negative for high testosterone levels, but I haven't seen any mention of it.

              Was he tested prior? How long prior? Was he tested after? How long after?
              25 times is what I've heard, and I believe he said 3 times last season.
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              • 1Rose
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 2562

                #322
                Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                Originally posted by roadman
                So, with your first sentence there is no way Braun isn't guilty. Braun was willing to perform a DNA test that would conclude it wasn't his urine.

                How does that implicate that Braun's urine was in the jar if Braun is willing to prove it isn't?

                MLB declined and the ESPN legal analyst Munson concludes that is why the arbitrator ruled in Braun's favor.

                Why wouldn't he want to prove it isn't his? Wouldn't anyone like people to believe they are innocent even if their not? Him saying that doesn't make his innocence any less questionable.

                My stance is this. The procedures were in place, and were followed properly. The MLBs solution to the problem doesn't really solve anything, just makes it look like the MLB is ignorant to those same procedures they have been following for years and that have never been an issue in all previous testing. The solution still doesn't explain the synthetic testosterone, no matter what way you look at it.

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                • p_rushing
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 14514

                  #323
                  Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                  OTL is talking about this and most of the guests are killing Braun's statement. The Chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency said you can't create something synthetic by having a sample sit for 2 days.


                  There are reports that Braun backed off the DNA testing claim.

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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #324
                    Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                    Originally posted by 1Rose
                    Why wouldn't he want to prove it isn't his? Wouldn't anyone like people to believe they are innocent even if their not? Him saying that doesn't make his innocence any less questionable.
                    Then, I will go back to what BK said, Why would MLB turn it down?

                    Maybe because they thought they had a iron clad case?

                    There are different reports coming from both camps on the DNA testing, hard to prove either way.

                    Chemists and Bio-Chemists have said it's extremely easy to tamper with results.
                    Last edited by roadman; 02-24-2012, 03:35 PM.

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                    • 1Rose
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 2562

                      #325
                      Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                      Originally posted by roadman
                      Then, I will go back to what BK said, Why would MLB turn it down?

                      Maybe because they thought they had a iron clad case?

                      There are different reports coming from both camps on the DNA testing, hard to prove either way.
                      Why would the MLB turn down a Braun DNA test? Maybe because they knew they would find something that would make the handling angle irrelevant.

                      Of course samples would be easy to tamper, it's a bottle of urine. So you're saying this guy had some vendetta against Braun so he tampered the sample, yet it came sealed? That's stretching it thin. It's already been stated that the synthetic testosterone couldn't be generated at someones home, and i'd imagine that it's highly unlikely that he had it in his possession to put in the sample.
                      Last edited by 1Rose; 02-24-2012, 03:45 PM.

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                      • Doormat
                        The Champ Is Here
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 2338

                        #326
                        Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                        I still think that Fed Ex messing with his sample is ridiculous, I doubt that's true.
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                        • roadman
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 26339

                          #327
                          Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                          Originally posted by LilWayneFTW
                          I still think that Fed Ex messing with his sample is ridiculous, I doubt that's true.
                          Your right, FedEx didn't mess with his sample, the collection company might have, prior to going to FedEx.

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                          • roadman
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 26339

                            #328
                            Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                            Originally posted by 1Rose
                            Why would the MLB turn down a Braun DNA test? Maybe because they knew they would find something that would make the handling angle irrelevant.
                            Heck, Kruk just said something about the presser Braun had.

                            How did he not gain any weight? How did his times going from home to first and first to third stay the same? How come he hit the ball the same distance as before?

                            It's clear you and I disagree on where we stand on this, so, I'll just agree to disagree at this stage.

                            I do respect your opinion, though.

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                            • WazzuRC
                              Go Cougs!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 5617

                              #329
                              Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                              Originally posted by roadman
                              How did he not gain any weight? How did his times going from home to first and first to third stay the same? How come he hit the ball the same distance as before?
                              There are many reasons MLB'ers take steroids besides just to hit the ball farther or bulk up.

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                              • 55
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 20857

                                #330
                                Re: Braun tests positive for PEDs.

                                It's all about recovery time due to the grind of a seven month (including ST and playoffs) season.

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