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  • Chip Douglass
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2005
    • 12256

    #16
    Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

    Originally posted by Daniel Snyder
    Wow, that is alot of contractual inefficiency, even for my standards.
    My visceral reaction.
    I write things on the Internet.

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    • 55
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 20857

      #17
      Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

      On one hand, that is a ****load of money.

      On the other hand...

      C- A.J. Ellis
      1B- Adrian Gonzalez
      2B- Mark Ellis
      3B- Hanley Ramirez
      SS- Dee Gordon
      LF- Carl Crawford
      CF- Matt Kemp
      RF- Andre Ethier

      ...is a pretty sick lineup.

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52926

        #18
        Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

        Has there ever been a sports deal that involved THIS much money?

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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #19
          Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
          Has there ever been a sports deal that involved THIS much money?
          Probably an EPL deal of some sort. (transfers and the like)


          If the Dodgers indeed take most of that salary on then it's a win-win for the Sawx.
          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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          • ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            #20
            Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

            If this goes through, this is great for both teams if you ask me. Boston needed a shakeup in the worst way, and they just dumped a poopload of money on the Dodgers. Money that the Dodgers can take on. This puts the Dodgers ahead of schedule on their ZOMG WE HAVE ALL THIS TV MONEY AND NEW OWNERSHIP spree that they were going on at some point anyway. In doing so they pick up 1) Gonzales, who will be unbelievably great for them in his old stomping grounds of the NL, 2) Crawford, who really needed a change of scenery, and 3) Beckett....well, the Dodgers can afford bad contracts, and 4) Punto, the grittiest player EVAR!

            Meanwhile, the Sox free up said poopload of money to reload while sending a message to the players that they don't run this **** anymore. And you know they're gonna reload in a good way. In return they get a couple nice prospects and a mostly mediocre, sometimes good James Loney.

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            • Dispatch
              MVP
              • Jan 2006
              • 2339

              #21
              Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

              To the Dodgers, Thank You.

              If this happens, biggest trade I've ever seen in any sport.

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              • ImTellinTim
                YNWA
                • Sep 2006
                • 33028

                #22
                Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                Originally posted by SPTO
                Probably an EPL deal of some sort. (transfers and the like)
                In one deal? No. The closest is Cristiano Ronaldo's move to Real Madrid from Manchester United. But you have to remember that those deals involve one player moving.

                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                Has there ever been a sports deal that involved THIS much money?
                So to answer your question, no, not that I'm aware of.
                Last edited by ImTellinTim; 08-24-2012, 11:31 PM.

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                • Beantown
                  #DoYourJob
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 31523

                  #23
                  It'll be the first time in MLB (and I assume sports) history that more than one player with over 100 million left owed on his contract will be involved in the same trade.

                  A-Rod is the only player to ever be traded with 100+ million to this point.

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #24
                    Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                    In one deal? No. The closest is Cristiano Ronaldo's move to Real Madrid from Manchester United. But you have to remember that those deals involve one player moving.
                    Ah I see, I know it usually involves one guy but it was a good guess based on what i've heard about professional soccer in Europe.
                    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                    • ImTellinTim
                      YNWA
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 33028

                      #25
                      Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                      Originally posted by SPTO
                      Ah I see, I know it usually involves one guy but it was a good guess based on what i've heard about professional soccer in Europe.
                      It was a great guess because Madrid paid Man U 80 million Pounds (94 million Euros at the time) just to talk to him. The contract he got was on top of that. So it's closer than it probably should be

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                      • niharjhatn
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 130

                        #26
                        Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                        It was a great guess because Madrid paid Man U 80 million Pounds (94 million Euros at the time) just to talk to him. The contract he got was on top of that. So it's closer than it probably should be
                        What do you mean just to talk to him?

                        The player (unless they have some specific clause in their contract dictating it) get ZERO of their transfer fee. Its paid directly to the club. If the player doesn't accept terms (and they are generally pretty similar from what they were originally receiving, moving to the biggest clubs is of course an exception) then the club loses the transfer fee - hence they are under tremendous pressure of their club to accept. Same thing happened to Kaka (didn't really want to move, club pressured him to accepting).

                        Its very similar to the posting system for Japanese ball players to go to MLB.

                        Anways, regarding the deal, a tremendous deal for the Sox, who get a clean slate AND prospects to boot... and apart from A-gon, seems risky for the dodgers. Those contracts aren't gonna be offloaded any time soon.

                        Still, seems like the G-men won't be winning their division any time in the near future.

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                        • ImTellinTim
                          YNWA
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 33028

                          #27
                          Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                          Originally posted by niharjhatn
                          What do you mean just to talk to him?

                          The player (unless they have some specific clause in their contract dictating it) get ZERO of their transfer fee. Its paid directly to the club. If the player doesn't accept terms (and they are generally pretty similar from what they were originally receiving, moving to the biggest clubs is of course an exception) then the club loses the transfer fee - hence they are under tremendous pressure of their club to accept. Same thing happened to Kaka (didn't really want to move, club pressured him to accepting).

                          Its very similar to the posting system for Japanese ball players to go to MLB.

                          Anways, regarding the deal, a tremendous deal for the Sox, who get a clean slate AND prospects to boot... and apart from A-gon, seems risky for the dodgers. Those contracts aren't gonna be offloaded any time soon.

                          Still, seems like the G-men won't be winning their division any time in the near future.
                          Yes, I understand how the transfer process in European football works. Before the buying club can discuss contract terms with the selling club's player a transfer fee is agreed upon. This is contingent on the player agreeing to contract terms with the buying club. If a deal cannot be reached, no money changes hands at all. A bit different, but the question at hand was assuming a completed deal, and no single soccer deal has ever touched the amount of money involved in this deal. We're not talking about how much money the player gets, just the amount of money overall involved in the deal.


                          Originally posted by niharjhatn
                          If the player doesn't accept terms (and they are generally pretty similar from what they were originally receiving, moving to the biggest clubs is of course an exception) then the club loses the transfer fee -
                          Incorrect.
                          Last edited by ImTellinTim; 08-25-2012, 12:34 AM.

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                          • niharjhatn
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 130

                            #28
                            Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                            Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                            Incorrect.
                            Thats what I was saying man - the club selling the player loses the transfer fee if the player doesn't complete the medical/fails to agree to their own contract.

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                            • ImTellinTim
                              YNWA
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 33028

                              #29
                              Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                              Originally posted by niharjhatn
                              Thats what I was saying man - the club selling the player loses the transfer fee if the player doesn't complete the medical/fails to agree to their own contract.
                              Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you were saying the buying club pays the fee no matter what happens.

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                              • RoundingThird
                                Leyenda
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3468

                                #30
                                Re: Dodgers-Red Sox mega deal

                                Being a diehard Sox fan, I'm sad to see A-Gon go. But since the Dodgers want Crawford and Beckett, send him away.
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