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[Blzer]

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No you’re justifying a erroneous strike 3 call because you don’t like what the hitter did in response to the called strike two.

This video is solely about an umpire who instead of handing the situation with any sort of character, decided instead to show up a 18-22 year old kid, by punching him out on bull**** call and then hurrying of the field.


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Jesus CB, do not put words in my mouth. I know what I said and why I said it. If my post was on the reading comprehension section of an SAT, I believe you would've selected the wrong answer regarding its purpose.

My post was in response to yours, where your narrative was regarding two bad umpire calls. This was about one bad call that wasn't a result of him not knowing balls from strikes. I'm not justifying his decision. If you can't read and understand that, I can't help you.

That being said, the batter is a whiny bitch. He can be that and the umpire can be a piece of crap and be removed from his profession.

[countryboy]

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Jesus CB, do not put words in my mouth. I know what I said and why I said it. If my post was on the reading comprehension section of an SAT, I believe you would've selected the wrong answer regarding its purpose.

My post was in response to yours, where your narrative was regarding two bad umpire calls. This was about one bad call that wasn't a result of him not knowing balls from strikes. I'm not justifying his decision. If you can't read and understand that, I can't help you.

That being said, the batter is a whiny bitch. He can be that and the umpire can be a piece of crap and be removed from his profession.

I’m done with you

Don’t ever insult me again


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[Blzer]

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I’m done with you

Don’t ever insult me again


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Same. Don't put words in my mouth.

[dubcity]

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I don’t care what the batter did. If he’s that offended by what the batter did after strike two call, then toss him from the game.

Maybe he should have, but If he had done that it would have been just as disastrous. He should have stepped out and talked to the batter for a few, warned him, collected himself, then move on.

[countryboy]

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Maybe he should have, but If he had done that it would have been just as disastrous. He should have stepped out and talked to the batter for a few, warned him, collected himself, then move on.

Agreed

Tossing him was unwarranted but it would’ve been better than punching him out on a pitch that never was or was going to be a strike


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[Caulfield]

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and for the worst part of this ump getting his suspension,
MLB now has a ready made replacement for Angel Hernandez lol

[Caulfield]

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looks like Edwin Diaz done for the season.
gotta wonder if this is the death knell for MLB in WBC

[Jolly Roger]

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Oh man, I saw that umpire call. That guy needs to be done with umping.

looks like Edwin Diaz done for the season.
gotta wonder if this is the death knell for MLB in WBC

It's interesting to see this develop, because the players really seem into it and the fan support is growing. But it's still so far away from the culture in soccer, where playing for your country in a big tournament is a given and the player getting injured is just an accepted risk.

Oh what the heck, I'll add a "hot take" too. Mets will be fine. He's a closer right? Maybe the most overrated position in sports. You come in with a lead and only need 3 outs. It's not that hard. Whoever fills in will do fine.

[Caulfield]

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Oh man, I saw that umpire call. That guy needs to be done with umping.



It's interesting to see this develop, because the players really seem into it and the fan support is growing. But it's still so far away from the culture in soccer, where playing for your country in a big tournament is a given and the player getting injured is just an accepted risk.

Oh what the heck, I'll add a "hot take" too. Mets will be fine. He's a closer right? Maybe the most overrated position in sports. You come in with a lead and only need 3 outs. It's not that hard. Whoever fills in will do fine.

I feel bad for Diaz but not the Mets.
not because I dislike the Mets but because if anybody can afford to replace the best relief pitcher in baseball, it's NYM

[Amoo316]

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Oh what the heck, I'll add a "hot take" too. Mets will be fine. He's a closer right? Maybe the most overrated position in sports. You come in with a lead and only need 3 outs. It's not that hard. Whoever fills in will do fine.

I would disagree with the bold. Being a closer is just as much if not more about a player's mental then almost any other spot on the staff. We've seen plenty of guys who are lights out in the 7th and 8th innings then get blasted when you move them into the 9th.

A LOT of dudes just don't have it. It doesn't make them bad pitchers or mentally weak or anything like that. It's just a certain mindset that some dudes don't have.

It's also a completely different ballgame when you're closing games in July vs closing ballgames in October and I think that's where it has the potential to effect them the most.

[Blzer]

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Closers aren't overrated, but many are misused just to garner a save by statistical rule, and saves are overrated.

I don't think there are 30 good closers in the MLB though, and I don't think there ever were. So I don't think some teams really have closers, in that regard. Sure, they designate somebody into the role, and that is a mistake.

[Caulfield]

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Oh what the heck, I'll add a "hot take" too. Mets will be fine. He's a closer right? Maybe the most overrated position in sports. You come in with a lead and only need 3 outs. It's not that hard. Whoever fills in will do fine.

I would disagree with the bold. Being a closer is just as much if not more about a player's mental then almost any other spot on the staff. We've seen plenty of guys who are lights out in the 7th and 8th innings then get blasted when you move them into the 9th.

A LOT of dudes just don't have it. It doesn't make them bad pitchers or mentally weak or anything like that. It's just a certain mindset that some dudes don't have.

not to mention those last 3 outs can be the hardest 3 outs all game long.
and also, those closer salaries wouldn't be so vastly greater than other relievers if teams didn't feel they were getting bang for buck

[Majingir]

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I'm on the fence about closers. Yes it is the highest leverage spot for a reliever, but I remember reading a stat a few years back about how a teams win% in the 9th in save situations is about the same in the "closer era" as it was before the closer role was introduced.

I'm still waiting for a team to fully embrace not having a closer. Instead of spending the extra money on one specific guy to pitch in the 9th, you just ride the hot arm. You might wind up with 4 or 5 guys who are in that role over the course of the season. So you aren't saving a guy for a specific situation when he might have helped just as much if he came in during the 7th.

All it takes is one team having big success with no closer before others copy them. If a team wins a world series without a designated closer all season, maybe others will follow?

[Master Live 013]

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I don't know about being the most overrated position in all of sports, but they are definitely overrated, but thankfully become less and less so each year.

[dubcity]

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Ironic that in the age of extreme specialization that closers would be seen as more and more expendable. But closer by committee seems like something a stubborn analytics driven mind would think has to be the way to go. It's algorithms over grit and clutch. Numbers over the human element.