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[WaitTilNextYear]

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So let's move the Dodgers back to Brooklyn, rename them the Brooklyn Nines or Tip Tops or Robins, then contract the Blue Jays and Cardinals.

Who's with me?

[redsox4evur]

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So let's move the Dodgers back to Brooklyn, rename them the Brooklyn Nines or Tip Tops or Robins, then contract the Blue Jays and Cardinals.

Who's with me?

Keep em the Dodgers and I'm down with this. Red Sox get the scouting department from the Cardinals though.

[redsox4evur]

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News on Pete Rose:

THIS JUST IN: Pete Rose met w/ commissioner Rob Manfred today. Manfred said he will render decision on status by end '15 (via @TJQuinnESPN).

I highly doubt he gets reinstated but if he does, I'm going to be pissed.

[Master Live 013]

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No need to wait Commish, just tell him he is out. Forever.

[TripleCrown9]

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Keep em the Dodgers and I'm down with this. Red Sox get the scouting department from the Cardinals though.

We don't need no stinkin' hackers.

[dubcity]

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I highly doubt he gets reinstated but if he does, I'm going to be pissed.

Honestly, how would Rose getting in effect your life to the point of pissing you off? He's a 74 year old dude who has had his life and reputation ruined by stupidity and addiction. I guarantee he won't get in, but I wouldn't be upset if he did. It's the baseball HoF fame, not a church.

[TripleCrown9]

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Red Sox hired Frank Wren as Senior VP of Baseball Operations.

[Speedy]

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Red Sox hired Frank Wren as Senior VP of Baseball Operations.

Morons.

Signed,
Braves fans

[areobee401]

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Morons.



Signed,

Braves fans

3rd in command. How much damage could he possibly do?

[Master Live 013]

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3rd in command. How much damage could he possibly do?

That's the attitude.

[Speedy]

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3rd in command. How much damage could be possibly do?

The better question:

What good can he possibly do? I highly encourage you to read the below.

http://www.scout.com/mlb/braves/story/1536680-ken-rosenthal-gets-it-wrong-on-the-braves

First, there is one thing to point out different in the Frank Wren era, with Tony DeMacio as his scouting director, compared to the John Schuerholz (as GM)-Roy Clark era (as scouting director) from years past – the number of picks.

In DeMacio’s five years in charge of the draft, the Braves did not have their own first round pick three times due to free agent signings. Also, they had more than two picks in the Top 100 selections only once – in 2010.

Under Clark, from 2000 through 2009, the Braves had more than two picks in the Top 100 in eight of his 10 drafts. The Braves actually had four or more picks in the Top 100 in eight of Clark’s drafts.

Obviously, the structure of the draft has changed a bit. But DeMacio should also blame Wren for not having as many draft picks.

Clark left the Braves after the 2009 season because Wren did not appreciate the work Clark and his staff had done. The list of players drafted by Clark that either made it to Atlanta or players used in trades is totally impressive. In his 10 years as scouting director, Clark had 33 draft picks that made it to Atlanta, while another 18 that were signed by the Braves and were developed in the system made it to the big leagues with other teams, usually through being traded.

But we’re talking about a number of high-impact players that made it to Atlanta – Adam LaRoche, Jeff Francoeur, Brian McCann, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Jonny Venters, Yunel Escobar, Tommy Hanson, Kris Medlen, Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman, Craig Kimbrel and Mike Minor. Some of the traded players who made it with other teams, but started in the Atlanta system, include Adam Wainwright, Matt Harrison, Tyler Flowers, Jeff Locke and J.J. Hoover.

There’s quantity and quality in that list. Yet Wren wanted to tell Clark how to run the draft, which made it inevitable that Clark would leave after a very successful run.

A few years ago a minor league pitching instructor, with an impeccable resume, told me, “He (Wren) doesn’t listen to anyone.” One example given was the instructor had recommended Wren not promote a pitching prospect who the instructor simply did not believe was ready for Atlanta. But the prospect, who Wren had acquired in a trade, was promoted anyway. The young pitcher struggled, and it seemed to the coach Wren was simply trying to justify one of his trades by forcing the player to the big leagues before he was ready.

Another longtime Atlanta scout said last spring, “The man in charge doesn’t want to listen to anyone else. It’s his way or you’re out.”

...and the biggest indictment:

When Schuerholz fired Wren last September, he talked about how he wanted to get back to “The Braves Way” of doing things. That was because many of the philosophies he had in place in his years as general manager were changed by Wren. It just wasn’t the same. And to understand what was different, let’s read what Schuerholz, and Wren’s replacement John Hart, told me recently about the culture change in the organization.

First, Schuerholz explained “The Braves Way.”

“The Braves Way is the people who run an organization, hire people who join the organization, who they believe think like-mindedly who have the same level of professionalism and pride and personal commitment and work ethic to sustain and grow and improve what is already in place being done by this great, productive organization,” he said. “It was the Orioles Way when I was with the Orioles. It became the Royals way in Kansas City because what I learned and what Lou Gorman learned with Baltimore we brought with us to Kansas City. What I learned I brought with me to Atlanta. Bobby Cox was here. What Bobby knew we blended together. It just continued to grow and enhance and improve. If you have people like myself and Bobby and others who come in and have a belief in their philosophy and operational attitudes and the kind of people they want with them, that’s how you keep the Braves way going.”

[TripleCrown9]

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In other (slightly older) news, Michael Nelson Trout strikes again!

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[redsox4evur]

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Honestly, how would Rose getting in effect your life to the point of pissing you off? He's a 74 year old dude who has had his life and reputation ruined by stupidity and addiction. I guarantee he won't get in, but I wouldn't be upset if he did. It's the baseball HoF fame, not a church.

I would be pissed because he denied Shoeless Joe, who supposedly did the same thing as Rose. So it would be hypocritic of Manfred to reinstate Rose but not Jackson.

[Psyblast]

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I don't understand the whole Vegas fascination. The NHL is interested. MLB is interested. The NBA was (is?) sniffing around. Why? What evidence is there to support the notion that Vegas is a pro sports town at all?

[Blzer]

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I would be pissed because he denied Shoeless Joe, who supposedly did the same thing as Rose. So it would be hypocritic of Manfred to reinstate Rose but not Jackson.

Joe allegedly threw games. Pete has never allegedly bet against his own team, as a player or coach.

I'm not saying one is worse, but... Joe's is worse.