MLB Off-Topic

[DrJones]

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I watch games (usually on mute), check scores/highlights, try to find a little intelligent analysis here and there (almost always online). No interest in talking heads or hot takes.

[SPTO]

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I hate Web 2.0 or whatever the **** they call it.

Web 2.0 sucks for those with vision impairment. I have my resolution a little lower than most so sites that are completely Web 2.0 compliant drive me nuts. SI.Com is impossible for me to navigate for example.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I do have OS and Bleacher Report on my phone.

Ugh...I can't stand Bleacher Report. Worse than ESPN imo. I'm not sure if it's any different than before when it was 100% slideshows. Which I hate so much.

[SPTO]

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Ugh...I can't stand Bleacher Report. Worse than ESPN imo. I'm not sure if it's any different than before when it was 100% slideshows. Which I hate so much.

Whoops n/m brain fart to the early 2000s they're under the same umbrella as CNN and TNT etc etc

[CMH]

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Ugh...I can't stand Bleacher Report. Worse than ESPN imo. I'm not sure if it's any different than before when it was 100% slideshows. Which I hate so much.

I just have it for scores and as an aggregate to news stories.

I very rarely read anything b/r writes. It's always trash.

I should note it's not b/r, it's b/r team stream.

[TheMatrix31]

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I really like The Score app for checking scores/box scores. Much easier to do that on your phone now as opposed to visiting a site.

Most of my time is spent on the computer though. But I think that's what these designs are intended for---phone use.

[SPTO]

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Most of my time is spent on the computer though. But I think that's what these designs are intended for---phone use.

They better come up with this for real then for people like me:

[Speedy]

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Quick discussion:

Is Andrew Miller still considered a bust? Guy was #6 overall in the 2006 draft and is now a reliever instead of the bonafide starter he was expected to be by Detroit. It took him until Boston turned him into a reliever in 2012 before he started being fruitful.

Looking at him now, I don't think there's another reliever in the bigs as good as him but that's not what was expected him of him.

IDK, I guess it depends on one's gauge of how much a reliever can impact a game (versus a SP). Is a "shutdown" pitcher more valuable being in ~80 games but only 90 IP or 30+ games but 220+ IPs?

[Sportsforever]

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Quick discussion:

Is Andrew Miller still considered a bust? Guy was #6 overall in the 2006 draft and is now a reliever instead of the bonafide starter he was expected to be by Detroit. It took him until Boston turned him into a reliever in 2012 before he started being fruitful.

Looking at him now, I don't think there's another reliever in the bigs as good as him but that's not what was expected him of him.

IDK, I guess it depends on one's gauge of how much a reliever can impact a game (versus a SP). Is a "shutdown" pitcher more valuable being in ~80 games but only 90 IP or 30+ games but 220+ IPs?

Let's pump the breaks on the "he's the best reliever" line. He's very good, but he doesn't even close for his current team. Chapman, Kimbrel, Allen are all relievers I'd put above him or on his level.

[Speedy]

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Let's pump the breaks on the "he's the best reliever" line. He's very good, but he doesn't even close for his current team. Chapman, Kimbrel, Allen are all relievers I'd put above him or on his level.

IDK...I'd put Miller above them all as his peripherals are all better than each of them with the kicker being his dexterity that he can be used in any situation.

[Qdiddy]

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Let's pump the breaks on the "he's the best reliever" line. He's very good, but he doesn't even close for his current team. Chapman, Kimbrel, Allen are all relievers I'd put above him or on his level.

I would say he's better then those names you mention as he is perfectly capable of closing and has, but he is much more versatile as well as he can come in at various points in a game and shut down a rally or whatever and can do it for multiple innings and multiple games. So best "closer" no, best "reliever" it's a very hard case to make for anyone better right now


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[CMH]

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He's not the closer based on circumstances. I don't know if that's the proper way to guage a reliever's talent.

Regarding his bust or not. He's not the starter he was supposed to be so people will find fault in that but I tend to think a pitcher is a pitcher, you just need to find the right role for them.

He became a reliever and has excelled. Credit should be given. Not every pitcher can find success with the switch.

[slickdtc]

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He's a bust if you take the view of him being drafted so high and not becoming the player for the specific role he was drafted to be, but not a bust if you consider his actual body of work.

The performance he's taken from this season right in to the postseason has been exceptional. Multiple innings of high leverage situations striking out almost every batter he's retired is downright impressive. Yeah, there is something special about the 9th inning, but without Miller doing what he's done the Indians might not have been able to hand the ball off to Allen to come in and get those saves.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Let's pump the breaks on the "he's the best reliever" line. He's very good, but he doesn't even close for his current team. Chapman, Kimbrel, Allen are all relievers I'd put above him or on his level.

He doesn't close for his current team because to confine him arbitrarily to the last 3 outs of the game instead of the most important would be a misuse of his talent. The closer role is meaningless, he's the best reliever in the league because he's the most shutdown pitcher in the majors that comes out of the bullpen. None of the guys you mentioned are that close, his K rate is higher than all of them and his BB rate is lower than all of them. The fact that his manager feels comfortable throwing him out whenever and he can shut the game down should be a plus if anything.

[AC]

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Let's pump the breaks on the "he's the best reliever" line. He's very good, but he doesn't even close for his current team. Chapman, Kimbrel, Allen are all relievers I'd put above him or on his level.

Him not closing increases his value. Save situations are rarely the most important situation, and that's been very, very evident this postseason.