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  • slickdtc
    Grayscale
    • Aug 2004
    • 17125

    #901
    re: MLB Off-Topic

    I would dip if I were him. Like, he was the dude a year ago and was dealt a crap hand. Now the rewards are ready to be reaped (prospects up to the Majors) and Maddon butts in line. I'd feel slighted. It's a business, but it doesn't have to go down like that.
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    • ShowTyme15
      LADetermined
      • Jan 2004
      • 11853

      #902
      re: MLB Off-Topic

      MLB is going to investigate the Cubs for tampering. If they find that the Cubs did tamper TB can be awarded anyone of the Cubs prospects such as Addison Russell or Javier Baez.

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      • ThaBoss18
        Rookie
        • Jul 2013
        • 90

        #903
        re: MLB Off-Topic

        Wow i really hope they didn't tamper and that it's just a cause of the Cubs rushing to get Joe Maddon

        Also how do they define prospects? Just curious about that now

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        • ThreeKing
          Banned
          • Aug 2007
          • 5852

          #904
          re: MLB Off-Topic

          The Rays aren't getting any of their prospects. What nonsense.

          Joe Maddon had an out clause in his contract and used it. The Cubs are also not obligated to keep Renteria under any circumstances. Renteria will still get paid from the Cubs regardless of how he was let go. Baseball has no leg to stand on here.

          Utterly ridiculous if they're able to grab one of their top guys. The Cubs don't owe the Rays ANYTHING.

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          • NYJets
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 18637

            #905
            re: MLB Off-Topic

            The only way it would be tampering is if the Cubs contacted Maddon before he opted out, correct?

            If so, that would be pretty difficult to prove I would think
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            • ThaBoss18
              Rookie
              • Jul 2013
              • 90

              #906
              re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by NYJets
              The only way it would be tampering is if the Cubs contacted Maddon before he opted out, correct?

              If so, that would be pretty difficult to prove I would think
              Yeah like the Cubs told him they would hire him if he opted out

              But i still think the Rays are angry that Joe Maddon left and want to get the Cubs in trouble, but the more i think about it seems taking prospects is way too much punishment

              If they do get in trouble and i hope not i expect a fine or maybe a lost Draft pick

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              • ShowTyme15
                LADetermined
                • Jan 2004
                • 11853

                #907
                re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by NYJets
                The only way it would be tampering is if the Cubs contacted Maddon before he opted out, correct?

                If so, that would be pretty difficult to prove I would think
                Usually things like this are difficult to prove, but MLB will look at phone records. Hopefully someone used a burner phone lol. You see Joe Maddon may not have been aware of his opt out clause, but his agent was and as soon as Andrew Friedman left you can bet with 100% certainty that someone contacted Maddon or his agent directly. Whose to say his agent didn't contact anyone first either before Maddon found out about his clause?

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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #908
                  re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by ThreeKing
                  The Rays aren't getting any of their prospects. What nonsense.

                  Joe Maddon had an out clause in his contract and used it. The Cubs are also not obligated to keep Renteria under any circumstances. Renteria will still get paid from the Cubs regardless of how he was let go. Baseball has no leg to stand on here.

                  Utterly ridiculous if they're able to grab one of their top guys. The Cubs don't owe the Rays ANYTHING.
                  Ya, I don't see any prospects going to the Rays, but I could see a draft pick going to the Rays. This isn't about Maddon going to the Cubs…it's about if he was contacted while still under contract. If so, that's against the rules…it's pretty cut and dry. That said, I don't think anyone can prove that.
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                  • ThreeKing
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 5852

                    #909
                    MLB Off-Topic 2014

                    Here's proof that the Rays can't prove tampering or do anything for that matter:

                    Nero is Maddon's agent.

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #910
                      re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Is it not possible that Maddon was just tired of TB and knew he would get a job if he opted out?

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                      • ShowTyme15
                        LADetermined
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11853

                        #911
                        re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        Is it not possible that Maddon was just tired of TB and knew he would get a job if he opted out?
                        Not really. TB had been trying to sign him to an extension, but he wanted more money. He also lost his close friend in Andrew Friedman. Chances of him sticking round were slim after 2015. Only way he could have know for sure he'd get that job is if someone contacted him or his agent beforehand. Maddon supposedly had no idea he had an opt out clause.
                        Last edited by ShowTyme15; 11-02-2014, 01:37 PM.

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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #912
                          re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                          Not really. TB had been trying to sign him to an extension, but he wanted more money. He also lost his close friend in Andrew Friedman. Chances of him sticking round were slim after 2015.
                          I know all that, how does that make my question not possible?

                          Why are we all assuming tampering? Based on your post it sounds like he was just tired of TB. You disagree?

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #913
                            re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by kehlis
                            I know all that, how does that make my question not possible?

                            Why are we all assuming tampering? Based on your post it sounds like he was just tired of TB. You disagree?
                            I edited my post

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #914
                              re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                              Not really. TB had been trying to sign him to an extension, but he wanted more money. He also lost his close friend in Andrew Friedman. Chances of him sticking round were slim after 2015. Only way he could have know for sure he'd get that job is if someone contacted him or his agent beforehand. Maddon supposedly had no idea he had an opt out clause.
                              So his agent couldn't have said to him "Hey, you have an opt out clause, I'm sure Chicago or LA would hire you"?

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                              • Sportsforever
                                NL MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 20368

                                #915
                                re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                I know all that, how does that make my question not possible?

                                Why are we all assuming tampering? Based on your post it sounds like he was just tired of TB. You disagree?
                                I think it is very possible and I wouldn't be surprised if he was willing to sit out a year before something opened up. Just because there is talk of tampering doesn't mean it happened, but just like the Cubs did their due diligence to make sure he had opted out I don't think the Rays would be doing their due diligence if they didn't make sure that's what happened.

                                The interesting thing to me is what his agent said this morning…10 teams contacted them when they heard of the opt out and only the Cubs were willing to fire their manager. Even the Twins, who had an opening still, weren't willing to make an offer. Maybe he's not as valued on the market as we all think he is?
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