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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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Kenny Rogers. Wow. Thanks!"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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The NBA get constant flak from former players about the current state of the game
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ESPN and other sports media influencers across the spectrum.
Nah I don't think so. People are trendy by nature. They get their cues on what to like from others. If the media they're consuming doesn't treat baseball with respect or intrigue or is totally dismissive and mocking of it, they're not going to care or care to learn about it.
That's why you have trite people who think baseball is boring. Nobody has put in the effort to explain otherwise, like why stuff is happening even when "nothing is happening."Last edited by TheMatrix31; 07-20-2018, 12:27 PM.Comment
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"It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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That last part is why I say these problems are inherent to the game. Anything that needs explanation can easily be ignored. The time we may have spent teaching the game is now spent surfing Netflix for something interesting. It's hard to get that eye catching moment in baseball, it's not visually stimulating like watching 2 250 pound dudes run into each other or a 6'8" jump 3 feet in the air. And like Blzer said, people think baseball is uncool because it is uncool, and baseball fans love it because it doesn't try to be cool, so how do you fix that?
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Kenny!?!
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I think this is a bigger problem than anything. People are told that baseball has problems, so by God it must have problems. The narrative that "baseball has problems" is the dumbest narrative in pro sports. It's too slow. It's too boring. There's no action. It doesn't grab enough youngsters from the inner cities or minority kids. Even though all of those statements can be refuted easily. Even though the sport is as compelling as it's ever been on the field and financially strong.
The only problems that I think MLB does actually have are (1) injuries, and arm injuries in particular and (2) potential labor strife between MLBPA and the owners. For me, that's an exhaustive list of MLB's problems.
Count me among those who would not want to see mic'ed up players in games that count. I really don't want my flashy, All-Star second baseman worried about being a commentator during a tense game against the Brewers or Cardinals. No thanks. Good idea as a gimmick in the ASG, but not a good idea otherwise. Again, this idea follows from the postulate that baseball is too boring and the players aren't visible enough, so we have to force feed them more entertainment until they tingle, which I don't really agree with.Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan WolverinesComment
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I hear more, "baseball is boring, "I can't sit through a whole game," and, "it takes forever," talk from everyday casual sports fan than from anyone in the media or MLB. It's not a fake narrative that has been perpetuated to the point that people just believe it via osmosis. It's an actual thing.
If you love baseball then obviously you don't see or understand the problem, and there's obviously nothing wrong with that.Comment
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Ah, the whole scuffed ball debacle in that one playoff game for the Tigers. How I remember the brouhaha over that!Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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I think framing it like this encourages people to see what's really just a preference as a "problem." Not everyone is gonna like baseball, but rather than searching for something intrinsically wrong with the sport to explain this, why don't we just recognize that baseball might not be the best fit for every individual? Just like any other type of product, service, business, or entertainment?
Instead of that, what people do with baseball (and baseball moreso than anything else I can think of) is: let's tear everything down, leave no stone unturned to go on a crusade so that Bob Smith from Grand Rapids, Michigan or LeeRoy Jenkins from Starkville, Mississippi will like us a bit more than NFL, NBA, and NASCAR. That's just silly. I don't completely understand it, when the sport is very profitable and extremely compelling to millions, why people are trying so hard to add Bob Smith and LeeRoy Jenkins at the expense of changing anything and everything that people already like. No other successful business seems to operate under the constant public scrutiny to "expand its brand" like MLB.
You might say businesses must grow or die. But MLB is growing:
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