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  • dickey1331
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    • Sep 2009
    • 14285

    #6226
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Well of course Umps don't want it. It's gonna eventually take them out of the job or at least lessen it.


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    • SPTO
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      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #6227
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Money99
      I'm all for an electronic strike zone.
      The only thing is that if it's an electronic system it still needs to adjust for height. Ben Revere isn't going to have the same strike zone as Kris Bryant for instance.
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      • Mabster
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        • Mar 2009
        • 7659

        #6228
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by SPTO
        The only thing is that if it's an electronic system it still needs to adjust for height. Ben Revere isn't going to have the same strike zone as Kris Bryant for instance.
        And it can't be based in just height alone. It's gotta be able to detect the knees and find the top of the zone somehow by determining shoulders and belt.
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        • Blzer
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          • Mar 2004
          • 42509

          #6229
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by SPTO
          The only thing is that if it's an electronic system it still needs to adjust for height. Ben Revere isn't going to have the same strike zone as Kris Bryant for instance.
          Originally posted by Mabster
          And it can't be based in just height alone. It's gotta be able to detect the knees and find the top of the zone somehow by determining shoulders and belt.
          This is why I always wondered whether the K-zones on TV adjusted for these kinds of things. If they are don't, then they are completely irrelevant to look at.

          Width is one thing, but height... they'd have to tag jerseys or something, and lock them in on pitch release.
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          • Jr.
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            • Feb 2003
            • 19171

            #6230
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Blzer
            This is why I always wondered whether the K-zones on TV adjusted for these kinds of things. If they are don't, then they are completely irrelevant to look at.

            Width is one thing, but height... they'd have to tag jerseys or something, and lock them in on pitch release.
            I know the FOX zone did. When they did the multi-pitch thing (like showing all 1st pitch strikes or something) the zone would every so slightly change on the pitches.
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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47434

              #6231
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by SPTO
              The only thing is that if it's an electronic system it still needs to adjust for height. Ben Revere isn't going to have the same strike zone as Kris Bryant for instance.
              Height will be tough to get right at first, but I don't see how even today, they can't have electronic strikezone for inside and outside pitches. Regardless if a guy is 6'5 or 5'5, the strikezone is just as wide for everyone since it's just the size of the plate. Can't get any clearer than that. If it even touches part of the plate then it's a strike, if it doesn't, it's a ball. No open to interpretation needed.

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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #6232
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Ya..but imagine if they went to robo umps and a clear pitch down the middle was called a ball instead of a strike? Oh...wait, never mind.
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                • DieHardYankee26
                  BING BONG
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 10178

                  #6233
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Mabster
                  And it can't be based in just height alone. It's gotta be able to detect the knees and find the top of the zone somehow by determining shoulders and belt.
                  They mentioned in the video there's a camera in center field to do this, I'm not sure how it determines the zone, whether the parameters are put in by a person or whatever, but I think more importantly is consistency. Once the zone for a hitter is established, a strike is a strike and a ball is a ball. We don't really have any guarantees now, if a human ump can tell easily where someone's knees and numbers are but can't make the right call for any numbers of reasons, the call can still be inconsistent.
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                  • Money99
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                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12694

                    #6234
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    My biggest issues with a human strike-zone is that each ump is different.
                    And some have agendas against players, coaches or teams. And like any human, umps can have off-days just like players.
                    There's also some arrogant pricks who think their strike-zone is better than the one in the rulebook.

                    With an electronic eye that all goes out the window.
                    If they can figure out a way to have an adjusted zone for every player, then I'm all for it.

                    (I may be super biased in this argument based on my little league coaching. I've grown tired of having 16YO's telling me what strike zone they like to call.
                    Nothing drives me more nuts than having my 10YO's trying to hit balls that are bouncing off the plate because Jimmy behind the plate has a strike zone that's between the ankles and below the knees).

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                    • WaitTilNextYear
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                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #6235
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Just heard the broadcast throw out 6 million people as a figure out there for this Cubs parade. Probably hyperbole, but it is packed.
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                      • Speedy
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                        • Apr 2008
                        • 16143

                        #6236
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        I think tweaking it to a hitter's height and batting stance wouldn't be an issue with today's technology; the question to me is how it would be implemented...

                        What will cause the hitter/pitcher to know it's a strike or ball? There will still have to be an ump behind the plate so does he get told via headset (ping if it's a strike, "x" if it's a ball)...will there be an indicator on the field or ballpark somewhere?

                        It all kindly reminds me of Schilling and the QuesTec stuff.
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                        • countryboy
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                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52694

                          #6237
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                          Just heard the broadcast throw out 6 million people as a figure out there for this Cubs parade. Probably hyperbole, but it is packed.
                          That is a hell of a lot of people.
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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #6238
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Speedy
                            I think tweaking it to a hitter's height and batting stance wouldn't be an issue with today's technology; the question to me is how it would be implemented...

                            What will cause the hitter/pitcher to know it's a strike or ball? There will still have to be an ump behind the plate so does he get told via headset (ping if it's a strike, "x" if it's a ball)...will there be an indicator on the field or ballpark somewhere?

                            It all kindly reminds me of Schilling and the QuesTec stuff.
                            Eric Byrnes, in the video, was the umpire. He had an earpiece where they tell him whether it was a ball or strike and then he relays it to the field, there is also a light bulb in centerfield that goes off when the pitch is a strike. There will have to be an umpire at home plate anyway to call plays at the plate, it just will be their job to give the correct call instead of trying to figure it out on their own.
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                            • SPTO
                              binging
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 68046

                              #6239
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              I just saw a pic of the Chicago River dyed Cubbies blue. It looks really nice, wish they could do that dye job every summer or something.
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                              • ImTellinTim
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                                • Sep 2006
                                • 33028

                                #6240
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

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