MLB Off-Topic

[kehlis]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

I don't follow NBA at all but don't they have some sort of soft cap and a luxury tax?

I don't follow the NBA either but my understanding of their soft cap is just that it's essentially a luxury cap like the MLB.

The only variable I could think of that might make a difference is who determines the cap that would start to result in a tax being paid.

[Mabster]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

I don't follow the NBA either but my understanding of their soft cap is just that it's essentially a luxury cap like the MLB.

The only variable I could think of that might make a difference is who determines the cap that would start to result in a tax being paid.

I think their soft cap refers to individual players max salaries. I don't see how that could work in baseball. Rosters are just too big.

I could be completely talking backwards though. My NBA knowledge is limited to what I accidentally is over hear.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

The soft cap in the NBA is how much a team can spend on its roster, then there's exemptions to go over, like Bird Rights for players that have been on the team for a certain amount of time and then the MLE, etc.

I hate it. If anything, set a salary floor. I don't understand how after a decade of the Yankees harboring overpaid, overinjured stars people think the answer is a salary cap. The Dodgers haven't been in the Series, the Red Sox have won in large part to players that they grew through their system.

[Majingir]

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I think it's because they want to prevent another Yankees type thing from happening again. Or losing one of their star players cause he gets 25M+ somewhere else.

Sure, the more your spend doesn't mean the better chance you have to win, but would be nice if we could see more teams holding onto their own guys in their peak instead of having him leave in FA or something.

[Speedy]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

I think the arbitration and qualifying offer stuff needs to be junked. I don't like how draft picks are attached to free agents.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Even with a salary cap, the Yankees are going to print money. So would you prefer Hal and Hank just go out and buy a few more houses with that money or would you rather they spend it on players? The money is there, the only thing they can do is up the revenue sharing portion, which the bigger market teams won't agree to because there are already small market owners pocketing the revenue sharing they get now instead of putting the money back on the field.

I think they should set a salary floor of like 100 mil and if you can't get over that then you start giving it back to the league out of your revenue sharing or don't get a part of it when it's dished out. Maybe more teams would keep their players if their owners had a reason to instead of knowing they can let them go, blame it on the Dodgers, and keep cashing their checks.

Agree with the QO crap, I'm not sure on arbitration. Would you replace that just with the minimum for those years or cut down the service time needed before free agency?

[kehlis]

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The soft cap in the NBA is how much a team can spend on its roster, then there's exemptions to go over, like Bird Rights for players that have been on the team for a certain amount of time and then the MLE, etc.

I hate it. If anything, set a salary floor. I don't understand how after a decade of the Yankees harboring overpaid, overinjured stars people think the answer is a salary cap. The Dodgers haven't been in the Series, the Red Sox have won in large part to players that they grew through their system.

I know there are exemptions but when there is an exemption made isn't a tax payed on that player? If so I don't see the difference.

[Master Live 013]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

The thinking goes that there wouldn't be a salary floor without a salary cap since the floor only benefits the players. Owners wouldn't agree to one without the other.

[DieHardYankee26]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

I know there are exemptions but when there is an exemption made isn't a tax payed on that player? If so I don't see the difference.

There's another line above the soft cap that you have to go over to go into the luxury tax.

Salary cap is 94.1 mil, tax is 113.3 mil.

[kehlis]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

There's another line above the soft cap that you have to go over to go into the luxury tax.

Salary cap is 94.1 mil, tax is 113.3 mil.

So with MLB's tax cap at 189 million is it that much different?


These are sincere questions because I know very little about the NBA.

[DieHardYankee26]

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So with MLB's tax cap at 189 million is it that much different?


These are sincere questions because I know very little about the NBA.

The MLB tax and NBA tax are basically the same. The difference if they implemented the NBA system in the MLB would basically only suppress salaries. NBA players have a maximum salary they can get based on service in the league, whereas obviously MLB has no such restriction, also half as many roster spots.

[SPTO]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

So i'm in a baseball mood lately and watched a game off of youtube last night. (I would normally watch my collection but i'm OCD in that I have to watch in chronological order and i'm nowhere close to my next baseball game) I chose to watch 4/25/93 Red Sox vs Angels. This was a Sunday Night Baseball game so I have some notes I took that I think would be of interest:


1. Even in 1993 Miller and Morgan were cozy as heck with each other. They'd only been working together for 4 years at this point but watching the game they were talking as if they were just two guys watching the game on TV. It was a very informal feeling. It was actually refreshing as I sometimes think baseball commentary today is a little TOO hung up on the analysis aspect.

2. The aspects of both men (Miller having an elitist attitude and over pronouncing latin names, Morgan making inane comments) were not really prevalent in this game and Morgan actually made a great point about the effectiveness of Angels pitcher Scott Sanderson's breaking pitches in a game that was mostly played in twilight.

3. Here's something interesting: The Angels had THREE members of the 2016 Red Sox coaching staff on their roster. (2 of whom played in the game) One of those guys hit a HR but it's not who you would think.

4. If this game was played by today's rules the Red Sox may have forced extra innings or won as the game more or less ended on a BAAAAD call.


Pretty fun pitchers duel between Sanderson and Clemens while also seeing the foundation of the '90s Angels teams with a young JT Snow and Tim Salmon getting a ton of love.

[redsox4evur]

MLB Off-Topic

Sounds like the QO system as we know it maybe done.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/mlb-offers-to-remove-draft-pick-compensation-in-next-cba.html

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[Majingir]

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Just too bad that teams won't get compensated for losing top guys anymore. Even NBA, it sucks seeing top guys leaving, but at least there's often a S&T situation that comes out of it.

No sports free agent system I find perfect.

NBA at least makes RFA where teams can match an offer. NHL has it too, but if they let someone go, they get draft pick compensation for it(which I think has only happened one time ever in history).

One day maybe some league will find a close to perfect system to implement.

[Speedy]

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Sounds like the QO system as we know it maybe done.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/11/mlb-offers-to-remove-draft-pick-compensation-in-next-cba.html

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I love the bargain.

Do away with QO in exchange for an international draft or even inputting international FAS in the amateur draft.