MLB Off-Topic

[TheMatrix31]

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If you're gonna do the DH, that's at least creative. But no. I don't want any more "federally mandated" ****.

[kehlis]

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As a method of strategy probably not but for the aesthetics of the game I'd like to see starters go deeper or at least the status quo before bullpenning became a thing.

It's not a huge problem in my mind but it's a preference on my part.

You know the Ray's and A's did it this year out of necessity and not by choice right?

[SPTO]

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You know the Ray's and A's did it this year out of necessity and not by choice right?

Yes I know, but you can make the argument the Brewers did it by choice down the stretch and in the playoffs.

I'm sure both teams will scale back the usage of "The Opener" next year.

EDIT: Let me just add that like I said it isn't a big worry on my part just an aesthetic preference. Hell, I suggested on Reddit that Joe Biagini would be a good "Opener" for the Jays.

[TheMatrix31]

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The fact that it's out of necessity instead of choice tells me what I need to know about the long-term prospects of it as a strategy or "way of life."

Given the two, nobody's gonna "choose" that ****. It's unsustainable garbage and really quite annoying and repetitive to watch. Makes every game feel the exact same, all the people who complain about game lengths yet still tout it, etc.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I saw this on another forum and am curious of what you guys think:

- The DH becomes the standard for ALL of MLB, except the one change is that once the starting pitcher is removed you lose your DH and must let the pitcher bat or pinch hit for him.

Thoughts? I've never been a DH guy, but that would be an intriguing rule that would create a little bit of strategy in terms of when to relieve a starting pitcher.
A team with a DH like Edgar Martinez or David Ortiz has to decide if they double switch and put them in the field to keep their bat in the lineup. It's interesting at least...

Lipstick on a pig is my take on that proposal. I might just be too staunch of an "NL guy"

[Blzer]

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It's the best proposal I've heard of all of them, but I'd just prefer the NL goes without the DH and the AL keeps it. Why mess with a good thing?

[DieHardYankee26]

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So the answer to stopping us from sitting through the mockery of pitchers hitting would be to make it so that the pitchers who hit most often are now relievers who get even less at bats than starters? Big nope.

[countryboy]

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If anything I say get rid of the DH all together.

But no...leave it alone. I'm sick and tired of people trying to change the game just the for the sake of changing the game. There's nothing wrong with the game of baseball....LEAVE IT ALONE!!!

[CMH]

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Is this going to be an every year thing?

Can't we just go through the off season without talking about the DH and letting it stand how it is?

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[DieHardYankee26]

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The best part is now that Ohtani is over, there's pretty much one pitcher who can hit and he's doing it as a DH. AL wins again.

Is this going to be an every year thing?

Can't we just go through the off season without talking about the DH and letting it stand how it is?

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I think the opposite, that eventually the talks are going to have to get serious. When I see stuff like teams trying to trade for Cano, and half the league having a clear advantage in that on the back end they can shuffle him to DH, you just have to wonder how long this is going to stick.

[countryboy]

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The best part is now that Ohtani is over, there's pretty much one pitcher who can hit and he's doing it as a DH. AL wins again.

Madison Bumgarner
Zach Greinke
Michael Lorenzen
German Marquez
Hyun-Jin Ryu
Clayton Kershaw
Carlos Martinez
Max Scherzer

They would all like to say hi and that they play in the National League

[DieHardYankee26]

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Looking at slash lines I think we just have different standards for hitting, most of those guys are not good. Lorenzen is the most interesting but he has 2 years under 600 OPS. I'm not talking about guys who are just good at hitting for pitchers.

[countryboy]

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Looking at slash lines I think we just have different standards for hitting, most of those guys are not good. Lorenzen is the most interesting but he has 2 years under 600 OPS. I'm not talking about guys who are just good at hitting for pitchers.

They also don't get 300+ at-bats per season or get to hit when they are not pitching.

I'd like to see Ohtani's numbers purely as a pitcher who has to hit in his spot in the lineup.

I just don't think its fair to claim that the Ohtani is the best hitting pitcher and the AL wins again when everything is not equal.

And I'm by no means dismissing Ohtani as a hitter, or even a two way player, but again to dismiss the guys that I listed for not having similar slash lines is a bit unfair when the nature of their at-bats are different given the circumstances.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I think the reason they're asked to bunt so often is because they're bad hitters but it's hard to say I guess. I don't think Ohtani in the NL is bunting all that often. The volume is true, but I don't think it would help. These dudes look halfway lost with a bat in their hands. If it wasn't for FP Santangelo, watching pitchers try to hit would've ran me away from NL ball faster than anything, and the Nats actually have a "decent" team of hitting pitchers.

I just think it's funny that a pitcher that can hit finally shows up and the best way to maximize his value is in the league where pitchers don't hit. If Madison Bumgarner gets traded to the AL, he's not taking anyone's DH spot. As long as my team gets the advantages of the DH and our league keeps entertainment value up, I'm fine with the way things are. But if I were raised a Mets fan and had to deal with trying to find a place for Cano in 5 years or even a Nats fan trying to make room in a young crowded outfield, I'd be livid that there are teams that don't have to worry about that. It's a competitive nightmare IMO.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I just think it's funny that a pitcher that can hit finally shows up and the best way to maximize his value is in the league where pitchers don't hit. If Madison Bumgarner gets traded to the AL, he's not taking anyone's DH spot. As long as my team gets the advantages of the DH and our league keeps entertainment value up, I'm fine with the way things are. But if I were raised a Mets fan and had to deal with trying to find a place for Cano in 5 years or even a Nats fan trying to make room in a young crowded outfield, I'd be livid that there are teams that don't have to worry about that. It's a competitive nightmare IMO.

If you were raised a Mets fan, the lack of DH would be the least of your problems.