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    Chaos Theory
    • Aug 2008
    • 8859

    #46
    Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

    Originally posted by Jr.
    Partially torn UCL.. gonna rehab for 6 weeks and check again.

    I'd be very surprised if he avoids surgery. Rough news going into the AS Break
    That's going eventually be surgery, and if it isn't, it's a good chunk of the rest of the season.

    Don't count on seeing Tanaka until next year, if we're lucky.

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    • eyeamg0dly
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 1671

      #47
      Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

      I think this problem has to do more with social issues of growing athletes bigger and stronger than what their body can naturally handle.

      Look at football as an example. Most positions require very athletic kids to play the position the modern standards, in particular offense and defensive line positions. 20 or 30 years ago, these "athletic kids" would have been playing wide receivers, line backers, quarterbacks, etc. Today those same kids are being grown bigger and stronger and their bodies naturally can't handle it.

      Now look at baseball. I am sure most can agree that in baseball you got to have the technical abilities to hit and pitch to be successful. You could be the most athletic person in the world, but if you don't have either of those abilities, you won't make it far. I know that is over simplifying it, but when you look for a quality baseball player, you would like to have the guy who can hit .300 or pitch 90+ mph over the guy who can bench twice his body weight and run a 4.3 second 40 time. What I am trying to get to is that generally speaking baseball players have this same issue of being grown bigger and stronger but (generally speaking) weaker bodies. Latin players aren't forced to get big and strong outside of their body's natural ability to do so, at least not at the same level it is here in the states and at least not till they join a pro team.
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      • 19
        Chaos Theory
        • Aug 2008
        • 8859

        #48
        Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

        White Sox reliever Nate Jones to undergo Tommy John.

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        • 19
          Chaos Theory
          • Aug 2008
          • 8859

          #49
          Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

          Another one... Tyler Skaggs to undergo Tommy John.

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          • kehlis
            Moderator
            • Jul 2008
            • 27738

            #50
            Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

            Is it possible we're seeing it more now because it's more of a trusted procedure now?

            I mean in years past it was seen more as a last ditch effort but with the success rate it's produced I could see teams more willing to jump to it sooner rather than later.

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            • CBoller1331
              It Appears I Blue Myself
              • Dec 2013
              • 3082

              #51
              Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

              Originally posted by kehlis
              Is it possible we're seeing it more now because it's more of a trusted procedure now?

              I mean in years past it was seen more as a last ditch effort but with the success rate it's produced I could see teams more willing to jump to it sooner rather than later.
              I think you're on to something here. Pitchers often come back stronger after TJS.

              I thinks it's a combination of that, the fact that teams are very cautious (even too cautious) with their pitchers, and the fact that human bodies just flat our aren't built to throw baseballs 95 mph overhand.
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              • DamnYanks2
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 20794

                #52
                Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                Seriously, another great pitcher likely lost for the season. this is sickening. If it wasn't for the parody this year in the divisions and the wild card race, this year would be dead to me.

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                • bcruise
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23274

                  #53
                  Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                  It's 2015 and the war goes on....it's been mentioned in the ST thread, but Yu Darvish.

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                  • redsox4evur
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 18169

                    #54
                    Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                    Originally posted by bcruise
                    It's 2015 and the war goes on....it's been mentioned in the ST thread, but Yu Darvish.
                    And possibly Cliff Lee he is looking at being down for 6-8 months. He is looking at August at the earliest.
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                    • Jr.
                      Playgirl Coverboy
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19171

                      #55
                      Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                      Tim Collins looks like he might be out a while, too.
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                      • TheMatrix31
                        RF
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 52927

                        #56
                        Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                        Mike Minor doesn't have Pitcher AIDS but he does have a messed up shoulder and he's visiting Dr. Death James Andrews so yeah...

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                        • redsox4evur
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 18169

                          #57
                          Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                          Marcus Stroman tore his ACL done for the year.
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                          • Gibbz
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 8240

                            #58
                            Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                            The Darvish news means I'll have plenty of room to stretch out at the Ballpark this season. Might even bring a couple backpacks of goodies to take up more seats.

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                            • 19
                              Chaos Theory
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 8859

                              #59
                              Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                              Mets reliever Josh Edgin, Tommy John.

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                              • Jr.
                                Playgirl Coverboy
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19171

                                #60
                                Re: War on Pitchers...It may be VERY real

                                Originally posted by 19
                                Mets reliever Josh Edgin, Tommy John.
                                Just saw on ESPN that Zach Wheeler is getting TJ as well
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