6/1 - 6/14 Game Discussion Thread

[redsox4evur]

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IF the Red Sox are going to win games this how they have to do it. Scoring a lot of runs and hoping the pitching staff can keep the game out of reach.

[bad_philanthropy]

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Mookie Betts just had an amazing collision with the outfield wall. Can't believe he's fine.

[redsox4evur]

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Mookie Betts just had an amazing collision with the outfield wall. Can't believe he's fine.

HOLY ****!!!!!!! Was lucky to have NESN on earlier today and I was able to rewind it and see.

[redsox4evur]

Re: 6/1 - 6/14 Game Discussion Thread

8-1 now. They will still find a way to blow this.

[l3ulvl]

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Cabrera just obliterated one lol, can't wait to hear the distance

[TripleCrown9]

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8-1 now. They will still find a way to blow this.

How dare you.

[Godgers12]

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Well time to get drunk.

[redsox4evur]

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How dare you.

Just speaking the truth...

[TripleCrown9]

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Just speaking the truth...

No I know lol. Just saying you jinxed it. When you posted that, Toronto scored 3 more runs.

[Godgers12]

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Im kinda surprised we still have a team being that we have had 2 shortbus GM's in a row. Amazing they didn't find a way to disband the team it self.

[Master Live 013]

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Let's not be totally revisionist here. I distinctly remember before the season a lot of experts saying the AL East is completely up for grabs except for Tampa Bay. (oops!) Most of these experts did what the Red Sox management did by rationalizing the state of the starting rotation. They were all like "well they don't have a true #1 but the offense is going to carry this team". I don't think anyone in their right mind envisioned the rotation being THIS bad.

There were high expectations this year what with the Red Sox loading up on offense and people were expecting them to at least contend for a playoff spot. As for John Farrell I think he's one of the managers that relies heavily upon the quality of the roster. Yes, you can say that about every manager but some managers have a way of elevating talent and trying to maximize them to the best of their abilities. Farrell IMO from watching him first in Toronto and in Boston is a guy is a fairly capable in-game manager but in terms of people skills and getting the non-stars to play above their head he just can't cut it.

One of the reasons why there was so much turmoil when Farrell left Toronto was because he came across as extremely disingenuous. He kept things close to his vest, always tried to play the PR game by not saying anything remotely close to the truth and strung the Jays organization on a string when it came to the Red Sox job. He kept saying "oh i'm not going to Boston" but everyone knew that was his dream job and if Bobby Valentine hadn't made such a mess he would've stayed in Toronto BUT as soon as the job opened up he did everything he could to go back to Fenway in a way that left many people disillusioned. It's probably one reason why Gibbons got the Jays gig again as I don't think AA wants another repeat of that whole saga.

If Farrell is as much of a faker in public imagine just how bad he can be with his charges. He's already done some things that have pissed off some of the players such as benching Ortiz against lefties and (this one is shared with the management) putting Hanley Ramirez in LF when he's far better suited as an INF.

So yeah, there's a lot wrong in Beantown and some of the problems lay at the feet at management but I think a lot of blame has to fall on Farrell for not managing the situation better. I don't know if he still does the whole "nice guy PR but being secretive" thing with the media down there but if he does than that's not going to fly when everyone had high expectations. As a prominent radio host here in Toronto called him Farrell is a himbo. He may look great but when you dig deep, he's vacuous and is way over his head.

"Experts" gonna expert. I can only speak for myself, so there is no need for revision.

Red Sox Opening Day Rotation, and their track record before 2015:

1. Clay Buchholz: A guy with a 4.06 FIP, 6.9 K/9; had never pitched more than 189.1 innings.
2. Rick Porcello: the only decent "sure" thing in this rotation in terms of consistency, but better suited as a #4, a #3 at best.
3. Justin Masterson: A reclamation project which meant you couldn't count on him for anything.
4. Wade Miley: 3.80 FIP, 103 ERA+
5. Joe Kelly: 4.11 FIP

I didn't believed on the Sox rotation before Opening Day and I still don't. Which is why on more than one occasion I discussed different packages of Sox prospects to trade for Hamels or other front of the line guys. I like to pick teams which are strong on pitching even if their offense is lacking; the Sox being the total opposite.



At the end it is neither here nor there, as long as the Yanks stay healthy I won't ask for more.

[steelerfan]

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Lol Felix.

[Godgers12]

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Lol Felix.

Still better than any pitcher the Lastros have ever had. That wasn't on steroids.

[Godgers12]

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If Bloomquist isnt a complete moron and makes that routine play the whole inning could have been different.

[TripleCrown9]

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Still better than any pitcher the Lastros have ever had. That wasn't on steroids.

You really don't put much thought into your trash talk, do you?