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  • fsquid
    Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 17635

    #61
    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

    cause Seo has no talent. The team had the lowest ERA in the league until just after the all-star break. Then our overused bullpen went to **** and it snowballed from there. I don't see how its Peterson's fault that our starters have as much stamina as I do in the sack, its rediculous.

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    • nyisles16
      All Star
      • Apr 2003
      • 8317

      #62
      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

      oh yeah - i forgot -- Botallico, Stanton, Franco.. need i say more??

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      • nyisles16
        All Star
        • Apr 2003
        • 8317

        #63
        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

        oh yeah - i forgot -- Botallico, Stanton, Franco.. need i say more??

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        • jordan0386
          Banned
          • May 2003
          • 9235

          #64
          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

          well seeing as he is the pitching coach..and the staff is crap, i'd say he will take some blame


          this season all the hype he is getting is overblown he is overrated...your not a good pitching coach if your pitching cant keep you in 19 of the last 21 games

          he's a bum...its time for a house cleaning...all the old logs must go...

          ITS TIME TO REBUILD...four years of crap...i have had enough

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          • jordan0386
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 9235

            #65
            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

            well seeing as he is the pitching coach..and the staff is crap, i'd say he will take some blame


            this season all the hype he is getting is overblown he is overrated...your not a good pitching coach if your pitching cant keep you in 19 of the last 21 games

            he's a bum...its time for a house cleaning...all the old logs must go...

            ITS TIME TO REBUILD...four years of crap...i have had enough

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            • fsquid
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 17635

              #66
              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

              well if you fire Howe, Petterson would be gone too, so that point is moot. Bring back Bobby V. or go and get Pinella. They should just can him now and let Franco be player/manager.

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              • fsquid
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 17635

                #67
                Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                well if you fire Howe, Petterson would be gone too, so that point is moot. Bring back Bobby V. or go and get Pinella. They should just can him now and let Franco be player/manager.

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                • jordan0386
                  Banned
                  • May 2003
                  • 9235

                  #68
                  Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                  whats with the love affair for franco...he is a cancer


                  peterson isnt going anywhere...he told mngt to trade kasmir...he has alot of influence, sadly


                  no point in canning howe now, the season is a wash, take the lumps and start fresh

                  there has to be a total house cleaning or im only watching grapefruit and cactus league games next year

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                  • jordan0386
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 9235

                    #69
                    Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                    whats with the love affair for franco...he is a cancer


                    peterson isnt going anywhere...he told mngt to trade kasmir...he has alot of influence, sadly


                    no point in canning howe now, the season is a wash, take the lumps and start fresh

                    there has to be a total house cleaning or im only watching grapefruit and cactus league games next year

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                    • samjjones
                      MVP
                      • May 2003
                      • 557

                      #70
                      Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                      Rick Peterson is one of the best pitching coaches in the league, and his results speak for themselves. Glavine and Leiter are almost 40 years old, and both are having very good statistical seasons (regardless of run support or defense behind them). Trachsel has regressed (as expected), and Benson/Zambrano have given pretty much what is expected of them. I don't think the starting pitching has been the problem this year. That being said, the bullpen has been atrocious for the most part (Looper is having a somewhat respectable year, but everyone else...ugh), the defense has been horrid, and hitting extremely inconsistent.

                      They need to build around David Wright, Jose Reyes (SS), and Mike Cameron. Everyone else must be expendable.

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                      • samjjones
                        MVP
                        • May 2003
                        • 557

                        #71
                        Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                        Rick Peterson is one of the best pitching coaches in the league, and his results speak for themselves. Glavine and Leiter are almost 40 years old, and both are having very good statistical seasons (regardless of run support or defense behind them). Trachsel has regressed (as expected), and Benson/Zambrano have given pretty much what is expected of them. I don't think the starting pitching has been the problem this year. That being said, the bullpen has been atrocious for the most part (Looper is having a somewhat respectable year, but everyone else...ugh), the defense has been horrid, and hitting extremely inconsistent.

                        They need to build around David Wright, Jose Reyes (SS), and Mike Cameron. Everyone else must be expendable.

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                        • jordan0386
                          Banned
                          • May 2003
                          • 9235

                          #72
                          Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                          Originally posted by samjjones
                          Rick Peterson is one of the best pitching coaches in the league, and his results speak for themselves. Glavine and Leiter are almost 40 years old, and both are having very good statistical seasons (regardless of run support or defense behind them). Trachsel has regressed (as expected), and Benson/Zambrano have given pretty much what is expected of them. I don't think the starting pitching has been the problem this year. That being said, the bullpen has been atrocious for the most part (Looper is having a somewhat respectable year, but everyone else...ugh), the defense has been horrid, and hitting extremely inconsistent.

                          They need to build around David Wright, Jose Reyes (SS), and Mike Cameron. Everyone else must be expendable.


                          LMAO...all over the house

                          not this year buddy

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                          • jordan0386
                            Banned
                            • May 2003
                            • 9235

                            #73
                            Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                            Originally posted by samjjones
                            Rick Peterson is one of the best pitching coaches in the league, and his results speak for themselves. Glavine and Leiter are almost 40 years old, and both are having very good statistical seasons (regardless of run support or defense behind them). Trachsel has regressed (as expected), and Benson/Zambrano have given pretty much what is expected of them. I don't think the starting pitching has been the problem this year. That being said, the bullpen has been atrocious for the most part (Looper is having a somewhat respectable year, but everyone else...ugh), the defense has been horrid, and hitting extremely inconsistent.

                            They need to build around David Wright, Jose Reyes (SS), and Mike Cameron. Everyone else must be expendable.


                            LMAO...all over the house

                            not this year buddy

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                            • nyisles16
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 8317

                              #74
                              Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                              The mets pen has been severly overused this year- Stanton seems like he's been in everygame.. cant fault Petersen on tired arms...

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                              • nyisles16
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 8317

                                #75
                                Re: Art Howe...Can he get his walking papers please

                                The mets pen has been severly overused this year- Stanton seems like he's been in everygame.. cant fault Petersen on tired arms...

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