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  • Sportsforever
    NL MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 20368

    #46
    Re: The DH Argument....

    The funny thing...this year the NL is outscoring the AL by 1/2 a run, even with the pitcher batting. If that holds up it will be the first year since 1974 that has happened.
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    • Jr.
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      • Feb 2003
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      #47
      Re: The DH Argument....

      Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
      If it doesn't matter what the bat is made of if you don't make contact, why's it unfair?
      There should be no advantage if it doesn't matter

      They already let a pitcher use the DH because they can't hit & they don't let other weak hitting position players use that same tool
      You actually can DH for whomever you want. It wouldn't surprise me if the Giants use the DH for another player if/when Bumgarner pitches in an AL park
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      • Perfect Zero
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        • Jun 2005
        • 4012

        #48
        Re: The DH Argument....

        Originally posted by Jr.
        You actually can DH for whomever you want. It wouldn't surprise me if the Giants use the DH for another player if/when Bumgarner pitches in an AL park
        Doesn't Rule 6.10 (b)(1) say otherwise?
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        • Sportsforever
          NL MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 20368

          #49
          Re: The DH Argument....

          Originally posted by Jr.
          You actually can DH for whomever you want. It wouldn't surprise me if the Giants use the DH for another player if/when Bumgarner pitches in an AL park
          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
          Doesn't Rule 6.10 (b)(1) say otherwise?
          Ya, the way the rule is written now you HAVE to use the DH for the pitcher. It clearly states that if you don't designate the hitter to hit for the pitcher, you lose the DH for that game...
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          • Money99
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            • Sep 2002
            • 12695

            #50
            Re: The DH Argument....

            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
            I'd rather see an MLB pitcher hit with an aluminum bat than a DH in the NL.
            You want to bring in a new generation of fans & excite them at the same time, that'll do it.
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            It seems to me that people are arguing the same case.
            In either league, you have a player who isn't competent on both sides of the plate.
            Both the NL Pitcher and AL DH are one-dimensional players.

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            • Blzer
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              • Mar 2004
              • 42520

              #51
              Re: The DH Argument....

              I'll just say that I love when the Blue Jays PBP announcer today said, "Adrian Gonzalez is taking a half-day off today starting in the DH spot."

              Poor designated hitters never get their credit when all they do is hit.

              I'll tell you one thing: being a DH would be very hard to do. If I ever have a bad at-bat, I get to alleviate myself more on the field and not just focus on my next at-bat... but as a DH, I have to sit in that dugout, focus entirely on the next at-bat, and when that time comes and I fail again, I would go into full stress mode. At least you can make up for your hitting woes when on defense. That always makes things feel better.

              Also, whenever I pitched, at-bats were always very ho-hum to me. I was more focused on my pitching, and whatever happened when batting, happened.

              All that said, give me pitchers hitting in the NL and the DH in the AL. Please don't change a thing.
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              • TripleCrown9
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                • May 2010
                • 23694

                #52
                Re: The DH Argument....

                I'm surprised this thread isn't a rockin' place after Colon's homer yesterday. That being said, it was his first one ever and he's been playing since 1997.

                So yeah, I'd take the DH over that lol. And I acknowledge that he's only had 228 at-bats.
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                • Ghost Of The Year
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                  • Mar 2014
                  • 6366

                  #53
                  Re: The DH Argument....

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  ... give me pitchers hitting in the NL and the DH in the AL. Please don't change a thing.
                  ^this^

                  Otherwise what's really the point of having 2 leagues, esp. now w/interleague games.
                  Really what we have is a National Conference & an American Conference.
                  If the NL does adapt a DH, maybe we'll see more interleague games.
                  Also, do any of the minor leagues not use the DH?
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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #54
                    Re: The DH Argument....

                    Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                    ^this^

                    Otherwise what's really the point of having 2 leagues, esp. now w/interleague games.
                    Really what we have is a National Conference & an American Conference.
                    If the NL does adapt a DH, maybe we'll see more interleague games.
                    Also, do any of the minor leagues not use the DH?
                    I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the minor leagues follow their major league affiliate. So it's not a division or league thing, but rather a team by team thing.
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                    • kehlis
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #55
                      Re: The DH Argument....

                      Originally posted by Jr.
                      I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the minor leagues follow their major league affiliate. So it's not a division or league thing, but rather a team by team thing.

                      I don't know if it's changed since I lived in minor league cities but growing up the the teams would follow their major league affiliate with one difference from the majors.

                      In the instance of interleague games it would be played under the rules of the visiting teams affiliate instead of the home teams affiliate.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52773

                        #56
                        Re: The DH Argument....

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        I don't know if it's changed since I lived in minor league cities but growing up the the teams would follow their major league affiliate with one difference from the majors.

                        In the instance of interleague games it would be played under the rules of the visiting teams affiliate instead of the home teams affiliate.
                        It is still this way.

                        I regularly attend Louisville Bats games and if the visitor is the affiliate of an American League team they use the DH, if they are an affiliate of a National League team, then no DH is used.
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                        • Sportsforever
                          NL MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 20368

                          #57
                          Re: The DH Argument....

                          Noah Syndergaard laughs at this thread...
                          "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                          • Money99
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 12695

                            #58
                            Re: The DH Argument....

                            Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                            ^this^

                            Otherwise what's really the point of having 2 leagues, esp. now w/interleague games.
                            Really what we have is a National Conference & an American Conference.
                            If the NL does adapt a DH, maybe we'll see more interleague games.
                            Also, do any of the minor leagues not use the DH?
                            In AA and AAA games, the DH is used unless both teams are farm clubs of NL teams, in which case pitchers bat. In class A or lower games, the DH is always used.

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                            • Knight165
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #59
                              Re: The DH Argument....

                              Originally posted by Sportsforever
                              Noah Syndergaard laughs at this thread...Colon chuckles....
                              D.H.....SOOOOOOO boring.



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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #60
                                Re: The DH Argument....

                                You guys make the same deal over a pitcher hitting a home run (kind of jokingly making it a big deal) as people do when a hitter is forced to pitch and strikes out another hitter lol.
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