The DH Argument....

[Knight165]

Re: The DH Argument....

You guys make the same deal over a pitcher hitting a home run (kind of jokingly making it a big deal) as people do when a hitter is forced to pitch and strikes out another hitter lol.

Except we're not kidding.

**** the ****ty junior circuit rules!
Pitchers hit 4 LIFE!


M.K.
Knight165

[TripleCrown9]

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The all-time leader for home runs by a pitcher was Wes Farrell. He had 38.

[Knight165]

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The all-time leader for home runs by a pitcher was Wes Farrell. He had 38.

That's a bit misleading.

His 162 game average for HR's per year would be 11.
Do I need to start reeling off the ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's on "real" hitters who can't hit that many?!


M.K.
Knight165

[DieHardYankee26]

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You can if the percentage is higher than pitchers who can't hit that many.

[Jolly Roger]

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The opposite side of the "pitchers don't hit well" coin is the fact that DHs don't field. I mean...dude just hits and then sits on the bench? C'mon man...

[Rocket32]

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I would rather the NL get the DH too but if not then I would like things to stay how they are.

[Blzer]

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I would rather the NL get the DH too but if not then I would like things to stay how they are.

Yeah, I mean let's get one thing clear here... I don't think there's a single "non-DH head" that is talking up getting rid of the DH altogether. Most of us say or want the AL to have their DH rule intact. Just don't bring it over to the NL as well. Keep the leagues different in this way, I'm good with that.

Once again (as I've said it in other threads), should they ever choose to give the NL a DH, they better provide a two-year window at the very least for teams to prepare themselves for that. Their teams are not built like AL teams, plain and simple. Give them a bit of wiggle room so they can prepare themselves for it, as opposed to throwing it on them the same off-season they decide for it to come over.

[55]

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Mike Hampton was one of the five best hitters on his team like 3-4 different years.

[fugazi]

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Mike Hampton was one of the five best hitters on his team like 3-4 different years.

Gimme nine Carlos Zambrano's and I'll take my chances.

[ryan36]

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Gimme nine Carlos Zambrano's and I'll take my chances.

LOL, can you imagine the equipment costs that team would have? Game 1: replace 4 dugout phones , 2 urinals, a mirror....

[DieHardYankee26]

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Just saw an interesting point on Reddit, in the AL we have the option of the DH but aren't forced to use it. If a team wanted to hit their pitcher they could. So it's really just better all around, Bumgarner could hit on the days he pitches and then DH on in between days if he wanted lol, it's a win win.

[Sportsforever]

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Just saw an interesting point on Reddit, in the AL we have the option of the DH but aren't forced to use it. If a team wanted to hit their pitcher they could. So it's really just better all around, Bumgarner could hit on the days he pitches and then DH on in between days if he wanted lol, it's a win win.

If Bumgarner was your best option and you bat even when you had the DH as an option than you have a sorry roster...Bumgarner is a good hitter by pitcher standards, but he's still not going to hit like a full time player.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Oh for sure, just that there's no downsides to the AL side. If you wanted to handicap your lineup with a bad hitter like many NL fans are inclined, they will still have that option when the DH overlords mandate it. Everyone wins.

[Blzer]

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If Bumgarner was your best option and you bat even when you had the DH as an option than you have a sorry roster...Bumgarner is a good hitter by pitcher standards, but he's still not going to hit like a full time player.

Bumgarner against the other team's pitcher is probably better than their DH option against the other team's DH option. At least, that's why they would do such a move.

So no, the Giants do not have a sorry roster. They don't have much depth in their bench (more in a utility/role-playing sense), but they don't have a DH-like player because they are not in a league with a DH! This goes back to the point that if this happens, there better be a bit of a window regarding when it gets put in. The Giants, as well as every other NL team, do not have their organization built with the DH in mind.

[Sportsforever]

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Bumgarner against the other team's pitcher is probably better than their DH option against the other team's DH option. At least, that's why they would do such a move.

So no, the Giants do not have a sorry roster. They don't have much depth in their bench (more in a utility/role-playing sense), but they don't have a DH-like player because they are not in a league with a DH! This goes back to the point that if this happens, there better be a bit of a window regarding when it gets put in. The Giants, as well as every other NL team, do not have their organization built with the DH in mind.

No, you missed my context. I'm saying if you were an AL team and chose to use Bumgarner instead of a DH your DH must not be good. Nothing more, nothing less.

I just think the idea that the DH is an "option" is stupid...of course you are going to use it and not bat the pitcher, even if it is Bumgarner.