Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

[Neolithic]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

no it can't, but Ichiro has excellent coordination too....ala the Single Season Hit Record. HE puts the bat on the ball....but, with some HGH and a few other cocktails...he could probably be hitting 50 HR's a year too.....Bonds wouldn't be a superstar if he wasn't hitting it outta the park....He'd just be another consistant hitter. I'm getting tired of the hand/eye arguement.

on another point: Short arguement about Ruth/Bonds...so really....not much of one.

[Neolithic]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

no it can't, but Ichiro has excellent coordination too....ala the Single Season Hit Record. HE puts the bat on the ball....but, with some HGH and a few other cocktails...he could probably be hitting 50 HR's a year too.....Bonds wouldn't be a superstar if he wasn't hitting it outta the park....He'd just be another consistant hitter. I'm getting tired of the hand/eye arguement.

on another point: Short arguement about Ruth/Bonds...so really....not much of one.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

Bonds is a jucie head punk, thats the bottom line. He should be ashamed of himself.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

Bonds is a jucie head punk, thats the bottom line. He should be ashamed of himself.

[nkhera1]

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the only reason i'm skeptical about bonds is because i heard his head size grew, which i don't think happens even with the most intense regiment. but otherwise i say innocent until proven guilty.

[nkhera1]

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the only reason i'm skeptical about bonds is because i heard his head size grew, which i don't think happens even with the most intense regiment. but otherwise i say innocent until proven guilty.

[iLLmatic]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

I think the point that is being forgotten is the fact that we are lookin at bonds like he is your everyday guy. HE IS NOT!!! he is obsessed with baseball and fitness. he knew that to prolong his career you had to prepare it. he knew he could not always be a base stealer but a power hitter he could work up to. he had pop already but if he focused on it and planned for the change it wold prolong his career. he planned for this. i hear people talk about how great shape clemens is in. but when he was wearin red sox gear, he was tall and slight build. he looks like a damn linebacker now. BUT OHH THATS DIFFERENT RIGHT? Bonds is an a-hole so we really want him to be dirty. Do you think that bonds is the only player with ties with a dirty trainer? Do you believe for a second that he is the only guy connected to a personal trainer who supplies roids for other people? bonds trainer is the first to be caught. guilt by association is b.s. Cause if that is the case then all caminitis active teamates would be still under suspension. but they are not. bagwell biggio and the rest of those guys who worked out with or were friends of caminiti. And another thing, how come nobody is talkin bout caminiti's MVP in 96 being dirty? this guy openly admitted to doin roids. and i am hearin on talk radio shows people doin interviews tellin bout how much of a gamer he was and great teamate. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN HE IS AN ADMITTED CHEATER? no room for speculation. he told you. I DID ROIDS!!! oh but i guess its ok because at least he admitted it right?

And why should we belive this punk personal trainer when all this time he said no no he did not use roids but now its all on tape and he is admitting it now? maybe there is a deal attached to that confession maybe. "if you admit to him using, we can grant you some sort of deal for a lesser charge." if faced with that 99% of people would sell their own mamas out. especially when faced with a crime associated with drugs.

[iLLmatic]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

I think the point that is being forgotten is the fact that we are lookin at bonds like he is your everyday guy. HE IS NOT!!! he is obsessed with baseball and fitness. he knew that to prolong his career you had to prepare it. he knew he could not always be a base stealer but a power hitter he could work up to. he had pop already but if he focused on it and planned for the change it wold prolong his career. he planned for this. i hear people talk about how great shape clemens is in. but when he was wearin red sox gear, he was tall and slight build. he looks like a damn linebacker now. BUT OHH THATS DIFFERENT RIGHT? Bonds is an a-hole so we really want him to be dirty. Do you think that bonds is the only player with ties with a dirty trainer? Do you believe for a second that he is the only guy connected to a personal trainer who supplies roids for other people? bonds trainer is the first to be caught. guilt by association is b.s. Cause if that is the case then all caminitis active teamates would be still under suspension. but they are not. bagwell biggio and the rest of those guys who worked out with or were friends of caminiti. And another thing, how come nobody is talkin bout caminiti's MVP in 96 being dirty? this guy openly admitted to doin roids. and i am hearin on talk radio shows people doin interviews tellin bout how much of a gamer he was and great teamate. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN HE IS AN ADMITTED CHEATER? no room for speculation. he told you. I DID ROIDS!!! oh but i guess its ok because at least he admitted it right?

And why should we belive this punk personal trainer when all this time he said no no he did not use roids but now its all on tape and he is admitting it now? maybe there is a deal attached to that confession maybe. "if you admit to him using, we can grant you some sort of deal for a lesser charge." if faced with that 99% of people would sell their own mamas out. especially when faced with a crime associated with drugs.

[nkhera1]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

I think the point that is being forgotten is the fact that we are lookin at bonds like he is your everyday guy. HE IS NOT!!! he is obsessed with baseball and fitness. the sudden growth in hat size happens along with the way Michael Jordan looks today compared to 10 years ago. both similar in age and both, as with all people, put on old man weight. it happens but that seems to be forgotten when we talk about bonds. i hear people talk about how great shape clemens is in. but when he was wearin red sox gear, he was tall and slight build. he looks like a damn linebacker now. BUT OHH THATS DIFFERENT RIGHT? Bonds is an a-hole so we really want him to be dirty. Do you think that bonds is the only player with ties with a dirty trainer? Do you believe for a second that he is the only guy connected to a personal trainer who supplies roids for other people? bonds trainer is the first to be caught. guilt by association is b.s. Cause if that is the case then all caminitis active teamates would be still under suspension. but they are not. bagwell biggio and the rest of those guys who worked out with or were friends of caminiti. And another thing, how come nobody is talkin bout caminiti's MVP in 96 being dirty? this guy openly admitted to doin roids. and i am hearin on talk radio shows people doin interviews tellin bout how much of a gamer he was and great teamate. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN HE IS AN ADMITTED CHEATER? no room for speculation. he told you. I DID ROIDS!!! oh but i guess its ok because at least he admitted it right?

And why should we belive this punk personal trainer when all this time he said no no he did not use roids but now its all on tape and he is admitting it now? maybe there is a deal attached to that confession maybe. "if you admit to him using, we can grant you some sort of deal for a lesser charge." if faced with that 99% of people would sell their own mamas out. especially when faced with a crime associated with drugs.

good point, i've been behind barry this whole time, but then the hat thing made me a bit suspicious.

Also one thing i would like to point out. Its not like you can't be old and play well. Look at roger clemens, he pitched better this year then last year. Plus i would imagine its harder to pitch when old, then to hit when old.

[nkhera1]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

I think the point that is being forgotten is the fact that we are lookin at bonds like he is your everyday guy. HE IS NOT!!! he is obsessed with baseball and fitness. the sudden growth in hat size happens along with the way Michael Jordan looks today compared to 10 years ago. both similar in age and both, as with all people, put on old man weight. it happens but that seems to be forgotten when we talk about bonds. i hear people talk about how great shape clemens is in. but when he was wearin red sox gear, he was tall and slight build. he looks like a damn linebacker now. BUT OHH THATS DIFFERENT RIGHT? Bonds is an a-hole so we really want him to be dirty. Do you think that bonds is the only player with ties with a dirty trainer? Do you believe for a second that he is the only guy connected to a personal trainer who supplies roids for other people? bonds trainer is the first to be caught. guilt by association is b.s. Cause if that is the case then all caminitis active teamates would be still under suspension. but they are not. bagwell biggio and the rest of those guys who worked out with or were friends of caminiti. And another thing, how come nobody is talkin bout caminiti's MVP in 96 being dirty? this guy openly admitted to doin roids. and i am hearin on talk radio shows people doin interviews tellin bout how much of a gamer he was and great teamate. HAVE WE FORGOTTEN HE IS AN ADMITTED CHEATER? no room for speculation. he told you. I DID ROIDS!!! oh but i guess its ok because at least he admitted it right?

And why should we belive this punk personal trainer when all this time he said no no he did not use roids but now its all on tape and he is admitting it now? maybe there is a deal attached to that confession maybe. "if you admit to him using, we can grant you some sort of deal for a lesser charge." if faced with that 99% of people would sell their own mamas out. especially when faced with a crime associated with drugs.

good point, i've been behind barry this whole time, but then the hat thing made me a bit suspicious.

Also one thing i would like to point out. Its not like you can't be old and play well. Look at roger clemens, he pitched better this year then last year. Plus i would imagine its harder to pitch when old, then to hit when old.

[Mr_Blonde]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

Look at roger clemens, he pitched better this year then last year.

Yeah, but he was in the AL last year. Now he faces a crappy #8 hitter and a pitcher.

[Mr_Blonde]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

Look at roger clemens, he pitched better this year then last year.

Yeah, but he was in the AL last year. Now he faces a crappy #8 hitter and a pitcher.

[bergie56]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

no it can't, but Ichiro has excellent coordination too....ala the Single Season Hit Record. HE puts the bat on the ball....but, with some HGH and a few other cocktails...he could probably be hitting 50 HR's a year too.....Bonds wouldn't be a superstar if he wasn't hitting it outta the park....He'd just be another consistant hitter. I'm getting tired of the hand/eye arguement.

on another point: Short arguement about Ruth/Bonds...so really....not much of one.

But look at the difference in their swings. Bonds takes huge hacks and tries to "lift" the ball whereas Ichiro is running out of the box and is slapping at the ball and usually swings down at the ball and hits it on the ground.

[bergie56]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

no it can't, but Ichiro has excellent coordination too....ala the Single Season Hit Record. HE puts the bat on the ball....but, with some HGH and a few other cocktails...he could probably be hitting 50 HR's a year too.....Bonds wouldn't be a superstar if he wasn't hitting it outta the park....He'd just be another consistant hitter. I'm getting tired of the hand/eye arguement.

on another point: Short arguement about Ruth/Bonds...so really....not much of one.

But look at the difference in their swings. Bonds takes huge hacks and tries to "lift" the ball whereas Ichiro is running out of the box and is slapping at the ball and usually swings down at the ball and hits it on the ground.

[nkhera1]

Re: Bonds used steroids in 03'.....

But look at the difference in their swings. Bonds takes huge hacks and tries to "lift" the ball whereas Ichiro is running out of the box and is slapping at the ball and usually swings down at the ball and hits it on the ground.

good point, and also if ichiro was one step slower then he is now, he wouldn't have as many hits as he does