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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52791

    #3046
    2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
    If MLB Trade Rumors has nothing on it then I don't believe it.

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    On MLB trade rumors


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    • notsobabybombers
      Pro
      • Jan 2018
      • 584

      #3047
      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

      Wilson "Buffalo" Ramos was placed on the DL, which could jeopardize his trade value.
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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23703

        #3048
        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

        Manny Machado is officially a Dodger.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52791

          #3049
          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

          Originally posted by TripleCrown9
          Manny Machado is officially a Dodger.


          Finally


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          • ShowTyme15
            LADetermined
            • Jan 2004
            • 11853

            #3050
            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
            Manny Machado is officially a Dodger.
            Only 1 top prospect given up.

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            • notsobabybombers
              Pro
              • Jan 2018
              • 584

              #3051
              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

              Here's the official deal.

              The Orioles traded All-Star shortstop Manny Machado to the Dodgers on Wednesday for prospects Yusniel Diaz, Dean Kremer, Rylan Bannon, Zach Pop and Breyvic Valera.
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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #3052
                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                My initial gut reaction to this Manny Machado deal is that Baltimore went for quantity over quality. That said, they really need both, lol. The prospects game is always a numbers/attrition game and there are almost never any sure things.

                Upon looking a bit deeper, obviously Yusniel Diaz is the "prize" of the deal. Ranked LA's #4 prospect on MLB dot com and the game's #84 overall prospect. He's one of the better position player prospects/outfielders in MiLB and he has a potential All-Star future ahead of him. Plus tools everywhere except rated with fringe-average power (but raked 2 homers in the Futures Game so I poo poo that assessment...no one thought Francisco Lindor was a 30 HR guy either, but he has been).

                Zach Pop I don't understand as he's a minor league reliever and has never started a pro game. I'm not up on his pitch repertoire, but if they think he could have 3 good pitches...maybe?

                Both pitcher Dean Kremer (ranked LA's #28 prospect on MLB) and infielder Rylan Bannon (ranked LA's #27 prospect) are guys that, frankly, I haven't heard much about. But their stats are great this season. Both are advancing nicely--early 20s and at the A+/AA level. Bannon seems like another well-rounded guy with average-to-plus skills across the board and I'm guessing he gets a boost from his inclusion in this deal as well as a boost fro people realizing he skipped straight from rookie ball last year to A+ this year and is mashing. He could end up being a sleeper for sure.

                Breyvic Valera is a little guilty pleasure of mine (he was awesome in an OOTP save I ran with) because he's one of those uber-versatile, make-contact-at-all-cost-and-never-strike-out guys. He could play corner OF or middle infield with some skill. Switch hitter. He's also been up to the big leagues already.

                This package is kind of the definition of a smorgasbord and probably the Orioles realize how deep they're in so they're just adding guys they like with no really overall plan. For the Dodgers, in some ways this is a high price (they spent $31M on Yusniel Diaz's bonus plus tax implications alone), but in other ways it hardly makes a dent in their very deep farm system.
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                • PhilliesFan13
                  Banned
                  • May 2009
                  • 15651

                  #3053
                  Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                  Orioles got fleeced.

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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853

                    #3054
                    Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                    Orioles got fleeced.

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                    If they would have traded him a year ago, maybe even 2 years ago they would have gotten way more. This is 100% Peter Angelos' fault. PERIOD! His loyalty to the players cost the Orioles in this case.

                    Teams aren't giving up the farm for rentals anymore. At least non desperate teams anyways.

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                    • SPTO
                      binging
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 68046

                      #3055
                      Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                      This is what happens when you trade a guy a year or two too late.

                      Kinda like the Donaldson situation, the Jays should've traded him when it seemed like STL was willing to give everything for him.
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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #3056
                        Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                        Yes, maybe both Diaz and Bannon become really nice MLB players so this deal doesn't look so terrible in retrospect. But, it's impossible to argue that Baltimore wouldn't have done much better if they'd moved Manny this time last year. They'd also be a year closer to gelling and closer to understanding what they need. And they never would've suffered this abysmal year, paying as much for veterans as they are. A fan base can understand a team going thru lean years while working toward something, but less so when you are putting on a face like you're actually competing for something.
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                        • rdnk
                          All Star
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 5730

                          #3057
                          Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                          It's more than Detroit got for JD Martinez last deadline. Orioles got a top 100 prospect for a rental; these days, they should be happy with that. Orioles still have Jones, Britton and Brach to sell off at the bare minimum.

                          Truthfully though, they should trade anyone with value except Mancini and Sisco, assuming they get a fair offer. Bundy might be an exception, because he hasn't broken out yet. If they decide to keep him and attempt to tap into his potential, it may be worth extending him, so he'd be around once the Orioles are ready to be good again. Sign him while he's a 4-ERA guy; don't wait until he breaks out to sign him.
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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #3058
                            Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                            Brewers now focusing on the Twins Brian Dozier.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47637

                              #3059
                              Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              Kinda like the Donaldson situation, the Jays should've traded him when it seemed like STL was willing to give everything for him.
                              Given the reaction people seem to have to DeRozan being traded, I'd imagine they'd be ripping Jays like crazy for trading Donaldson, even if the return was a steal for the Jays.


                              Sad but it's true.

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                              • decga
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 2469

                                #3060
                                Re: 2017-2018 MLB Hot Stove Thread

                                Originally posted by kenp86
                                What do you mean WERE high on Seager and Turner? They still are. Seager is hurt. So Manny slides in at short. FA at seaons end. Dodgers have enough prospects to go get a pitcher as well.
                                Dodgers window is closed! Kershaw couldn't do it.He started three postseason games in a series. They came real close, just like my Falcons and loss it. Dodger's might win the division. Dodger's and O's were similar except; they do have a stud starter in Kershaw. Machado can't give them starter innings. Unless Dodger's can sweet talk MadBum from the Giants. Just like I wish my Braves could. Dodger's were trailing in there division and now they back on top without Machado offensive output. Manny Machado is a shining Ferrari. Just for show! Ask the O's???

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